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DennisA (IL) 
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Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 7:39pm |
I would like to get the A/C working in the 7045. The dealer quoted $1900.00 which is not going to work in my budget.
It's still set up for R12 and I have been told that I can't just change the fitting and fill with R134a. Is there anyone here that knows their way around this system that could give me some advice?
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 8:50pm |
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I was thinking the R12 oil and 134 didn't get along well.12 used mineral and 134 uses PAG or Ester.I would bet if you can drain/flush compressor and change oil then flush lines you could suck it down and charge it with 134.Have to isolate expansion valve and drier.Can't flush them.New drier anyway.My 8070 has original plumbing everywhere and is using 134 w/adapters installed.Came that way.
think there are drop in replacements for R12 at auto supply you could try
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Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 9:43pm |
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7045,7080,8050&8070's run 134A. One of the 8070's has a new style compressor. I'll do your 7045 if you will do my 200? I can hear ILGleaner now telling to pull off that cab and find some fenders.LOL
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 10:48pm |
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Ester oil gets along with both 12 and 134. It's best to flush out whatever oil is still in the system and then use PAG oil. If it still has the original Frigidaire A6 there is a drain plug to get the oil out of the compressor. I believe there is a retrofit Sanden compressor available which is the way I'd go if the A6 has problems. Use flushing solvent to clean out the system. The best way to dry out the system after you have flushed it is with an air vac. Compressed air is not the best idea because of the moisture. Water and refrigerant mixed creates acid. Once you have it cleaned out install a new drier and evacuate. I would let the vacuum pump run at least 30 minutes, an hour would be better. The rule of thumb for retrofit is 80% of the R12 charge. What I always did for a retrofit was start with 50% and then sneak up on the sweet spot for charge level.
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 11:33pm |
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Brian - I can vouch for the compressed air and moisture in flushing lines. I ran into that when I rebuilt the AC on my 04 Toyota Sienna this summer. Ran the vacuum like 3 hours getting all the moisture out. I was using one of those air powered vacuum pumps. Don't have a monster compressor so I teed two smaller compressors together and they were able to keep up with it and it worked out fine in the end. I wondering about if I'll need to convert my F2 to 134 next summer before I start running it for wheat. It looks to be original R12. I'll put gauges on it to check first what I have. Might just have to buy some expensive R12 cans on eBay if it works and just needs a little. Mike
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Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 4:28am |
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you'll prolly need new hoses too, it's about time to be replaced. they are cheaper thru A&I than thru Agco, and that's where Agco orders theirs from. (same part numbers as agco too)
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 9:38am |
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Mike,my F2 takes 2 cans 134 every fall.Sets all year.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 10:39am |
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also pull a vacumm and make sure it holds that for a day if it doesnt somthing leaks and it wont stay charged long
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Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 10:57am |
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Mike I have a case of R-12 that's just sitting there, call me if you need some.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 12:06pm |
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For some reason, air conditioning is the last thing I am thinking about right now. Lol Darrel
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Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 5:20pm |
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As everyone has said, expansion valve, dryier, and flush the system, vacum down. When i did my 7060 my compresson was leaking bad out the front, so i replaced it too and added 60 onces of 134a. It cools better than the 12. Needs about a can or so every spring to keep it cool. Cheaper than replacing all the hoses.
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randy
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Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 5:22pm |
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The $1900 was probably replacing all hoses and compressor.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 2:06am |
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I bought everything through AP Air Inc. New hoses, expansion valve,drier and sanden pump conversion kit for under $1000. I installed everything and my mechanic charged it. It worked absolutely amazing. http://www.apairinc.com/shopping/productDetails.aspx?i=145983
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Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 7:34am |
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For the guys that have to add a little freon each year, you might try a freon stop leak. I've used it several different times and it's worked. I've picked it up at O'Reilly's. I also add a small can of oil with it figuring that some had leaked out.
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