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7020-Update to R134 A/C System?

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    Posted: 16 May 2016 at 8:07pm
I bought the tractor with the air conditioning belts cut off. Pump appears to be frozen. Does someone make a kit to update these to R134? How many $$ are we talking for a kit?

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It could be the compressor clutch bearing frozen also.
All the standard components can be used when converting. Be sure to install anew dryer, The compressor is a standard GM A6 like on the 70's cars and trucks.
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Fix the compressor, then just charge with 134A. There is no need for a conversion kit.
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...put on a new drier too.My 8070 was converted before I got it and pretty sure no hoses were replaced has the 134 adapters on the fittings so the compressor may be original? Workd good but I do think it could stand a t-stat switch.
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You do want to change the dryer as already suggested. Take all the connections loose and replace the o-rings. They won't stand up to to the 134A. Make sure you flush the complete system. Contrary to air conditioning moguls, brake fluid works fine. Just tape the stem to the can so you won't blow it into system. Then blow the brake clean in until it blows clear and then until dry. Do this for all hoses, condenser and evaporator. Drain all the oil out of the compressor and refill with the correct AC oil. The new will adapt to some of the old but not a lot, and can seize the compressor. Seen it happen but not often. Your expansion valve needs to be changed for one that uses 134A The 134A uses a smaller orifice, so you get a colder operating system. Sounds like a lot to do, but really isn't and it also sounds more difficult but it's not.The added expense of new hoses with plastic liners is also not a bad idea. Hope this gives you an idea of what to get a good operating system. Leon R Cmo
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Do A/C work all the time, obviously you'll need a compressor, definitely change out dryer and expansion valve, flush system with A/C flush, fill compressor with pag oil, pull vacuum for a couple hours, and fill er up with R134.

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i just replaced mine on the 7020 i just bought. compressor was locked up. i went to hycap and got the conversion kit to a more efficent compressor. they also have a kit to replace all hoses also. not needed but is available. i did lines so i should have to worry about it for years hopefully. here is the link to the compressor kit

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How many oz of coolant does the system hold? Thinking about getting mine going too. My compressor was unwired. Hooked wires up and it will kick on with the thermostat now but doesnt get cold. What oil do you add?
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Leon you dummy, it's brake clean. Remember, BRAKE CLEAN.
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Originally posted by LeonR2013 LeonR2013 wrote:

You do want to change the dryer as already suggested. Take all the connections loose and replace the o-rings. They won't stand up to to the 134A. Make sure you flush the complete system. Contrary to air conditioning moguls, brake fluid works fine. Just tape the stem to the can so you won't blow it into system. Then blow the brake clean in until it blows clear and then until dry. Do this for all hoses, condenser and evaporator. Drain all the oil out of the compressor and refill with the correct AC oil. The new will adapt to some of the old but not a lot, and can seize the compressor. Seen it happen but not often. Your expansion valve needs to be changed for one that uses 134A The 134A uses a smaller orifice, so you get a colder operating system. Sounds like a lot to do, but really isn't and it also sounds more difficult but it's not.The added expense of new hoses with plastic liners is also not a bad idea. Hope this gives you an idea of what to get a good operating system. Leon R Cmo

Thought that sounded a little goofy even for you.
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Steve you're right. I have been know to come up with some strange idears. But what if they work? LOL
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I see a reman pump & clutch w/2 yr warranty from Napa for a 79 Chev Pickup is $175 and a clutch is $90.

Would a pump off a pickup work?
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If you're getting an A6 compressor, it should be the same. 79 is in the time frame that the A6 was dropped for the R4.
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I've flushed components with brake cleaner before too. I always use my air vac to vacuum out the brake clean when done because compressed air can have lots of moisture in it along with condensation from the evaporating brake cleaner. Once I'm satisfied I've gotten it as dry as possible I add the oil and begin evacuation.
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Originally posted by Dmpaul89 Dmpaul89 wrote:

How many oz of coolant does the system hold? Thinking about getting mine going too. My compressor was unwired. Hooked wires up and it will kick on with the thermostat now but doesnt get cold. What oil do you add?
Typically converting a R12 system to 134 will be about 80% of the R12 capacity. When I have converted them in the past I'll start at 50% and then sneak up on how much the system likes best.
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I highly recommend the Sanden conversion from AP Air, it's got the real Sanden compressor not a cheap knockoff, bolts on easily and work's absolutely amazing. I installed everything myself all new hoses, compressor, and expansion valve. The old girl will freeze you out of the cab, I venture to say that it cools twice as good as it did when it was new. I've got $750 in the setup but it was money well spent!! 
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