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    Posted: 24 Oct 2020 at 3:33pm
I have a 16 speed power director 7010.  I started putting some equipment away in the barn for winter.  Was shifting out of low into park and got half way out of low and the lever got stuck.  Can't move it forward or backward.  Tractor won't move either so it is not in gear. 

I have had a little trouble shifting into park lately so this problem may have been waiting to happen.   I don't know much about this setup but my guess is that it could be the park cable is stuck or it could be the hi/lo cable is stuck.  Worse case scenario is the shift fork in the transmission?  I think I need to disconnect the park cable and see if that allows movement.  If it doesn't then disconnect the hi/low cable and see if it moves. 

Most importantly, looking for steps to debug the problem.  Any help is appreciated!

Here is a picture of the shift cable area.  I used red for the hi/low cable that looks a little bent to me, and I think the blue is park cable? 

Last, the dang tractor is half in the barn.  Can I pull it out about 10 feet so that I can shut the door?


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You'll probably need to remove the floorboard of the cab to get to the real shift lever.  If you disconnect the large cable down below and now your lever in the cab moves again, it ain't the cable. The large cable does the front to back movement and really all the work. The small cable is the side shift cable and directs the under the cab lever to the Park rail or the LOW-N-HIGH rail.  I think you have shifter problems inside the shifting cover behind the small fuel tank.
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may have dirt around the buttons, blow out around them with an air hose first, have had to do this with mine several times. do it from the top.
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All right thanks for the help.  I will remove the floor board and disconnect cable and see what happens. 

Shameless, not sure what you mean about buttons?  Are they below the cab?  I don't see any buttons above the cab.

Finally, is it OK to pull the tractor out of the barn 20 feet so I can shut the door.
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Hi low buttons for PD....don't know what your tractor has. Im not sure but don't see how a 20ft move could harm anything.
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I have a shift lever and no buttons.  Getting out of the barn gives me more light too.  Thanks.
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Originally posted by calico190xt68 calico190xt68 wrote:

I have a shift lever and no buttons.  Getting out of the barn gives me more light too.  Thanks.

You don't have two buttons on the floor, for shifting between the high and low?
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I understand now what you mean.  Yes, I do have the buttons on the floor which is the power director, but it is the lever on the console that is stuck.  That lever does high and low and also puts it into park if you go to neutral and then pull over and back.  I never made it to park as it is caught half between low and neutral. 

I haven't had a chance today to look at it unfortunately.  Due to the fact that I couldn't get an appointment for butchering, I had to finish butchering a lamb that I had hanging.
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Happy to report that I have resolved this issue with the help of the forum.  It ended up being a sticking hi/low main cable.  My steps were:

I removed the cab flooring, then the metal plate, and then the screw that tied the cable end to the final shift link.  After shifting it, it was still stuck, but I noticed it moved a little.  That convinced me this was not shift fork issue but rather a cable problem.  I put some wd-40 on the end under the cab, then moved it back and forth and it broke loose.  It looked like it was in a bit of a bind but has to be corrosion in the cable.  I reconnected and was able to place into high, low and park.  Tractor moved as expected.  I still think it shifts hard so would like to replace the cable and be done with it since I have it all apart.  Worried it might stick in the dead of winter when I really need it. 

Just how do you go about replacing the hi/lo shift cable?  Obviously it comes off at both ends but wonder about threading it in and out of the cab?  Any tricks to that?

Thanks to Dr Allis and everyone that jumped in!
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Just how do you go about replacing the hi/lo shift cable?  Obviously it comes off at both ends but wonder about threading it in and out of the cab?  Any tricks to that?

Thanks to Dr Allis and everyone that jumped in!
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Coming from someone whose only done two:
The cable clamps in the console should be self evident. I pulled the hi/lo cable out the back of the cab and you will find there is a U clamp holding the cable to a bracket bolted to the rear end behind the valve stack. Remove 2 bolts and move assembly forward to remove clamp through the hole in the floor. HTH.
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If you have done two, then you should know the steps.  Hope it wasn't on the same tractor.  Doesn't sound too bad.  I wonder what the cable costs?  I assume only from Agco?  Thanks for your help.
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sorry...i misunderstood which hi/low it was.
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I got mine from Agco for $200. Have not tried Bunker Hill but others say good things about them
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BunkerHill is at around $95 versus $200.  I think I will try the bunker hill since SteveM has recommended them and your comments about others.  Thanks for the info.

I forgot to mention that I found two bird nests under my floor board when I took off the metal plate.  I also found a 3rd nest early this year when I fixed the clutch starter switch button.  Is there any way to stop these birds from nesting under there?  Can I put some hardware cloth around the area?  Wonder how many others have birds nest and don't know it like me?  I can't make my barn bird proof either.  I don't drive it much until hay season begins which is usually June 1 in Indiana.  I am guessing they start in April and build these nests.  I wonder if moth balls repel them like mice?
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If you find a way to keep them out, let me know. For some reason they prefer the 7045 over the other two. My guess is if the tractor sits idle long enough them sparrows get bold. I see them look over those tractors constantly
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My current thought is to at least wrap some hardware cloth around the area below the cab around March and then remove come hay baling time.  You can bend the hardware cloth around things and it will stay.  Might even be able to drive it around with the hardware cloth because it will allow air flow too.  If you stuff a tarp in there, then the mice will think you have built them a hotel.  I will try it this spring and see if it works.  It is a fire hazzard with that much hay nesting material stuffed in there.  Bought me a new floor mat from Fehr to replace the indoor/outdoor carpet that exists now.  It is holding moisture and causing the plate to rust.  Going to paint that metal plate to inhibit more rust.  Then I will buy the rest of the cab kit once I get all of this done.

One fix leads to another and another and another ...
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get the part number from AGCO, go to your nearest farm store and ask them to order you a cable or whatever you need thru A&I parts. (same place AGCO gets alot of their parts) the part numbers from ALLIS are the same part numbers at A&I. and a whole lot cheaper. 
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I pulled the trigger on the BunkerHill cable before I saw this.  However, I will keep this in mind for next time.  I noticed some parts I got from All States Ag had the A&I tag on it but I did a search on that cable from some of the online vendors I have used and nothing came up.

I looked at that u clamp and I don't know if I should loosen from the back of the tractor or try to loosen from within the cab.  Both paths look pretty hard to get to and limited space for a wrench or socket.
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Unbolt the U-bolt anchor plate and then position it where you can wrench on the U-bolt easier.
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:


Unbolt the U-bolt anchor plate and then position it where you can wrench on the U-bolt easier.

I did as stated above and moved the    assembly forward to reach from inside the cab.
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Thanks to you both for the clarification.  Hope to get that cable changed out by the weekend. 
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You know, I've never ever changed out just ONE cable on a job like that. As much work as it is to do, change them both for very little more labor and cost. You'll be glad you did it that way.
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That's probably a good idea.  I will order the other shifting cable.  I ended up painting the steel plate and it is going to be a few days before it is dry anyway.  I also had my new floor mat delivered from Fehr so might as well go all the way and replace the other shift cable.  It is tough on your belly in that cab trying to wrench things to say the least.
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When I put the cab kit in, I removed the seat. Way more room if you go that route.
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After I redo the floor and get the shifting cables fixed, I hope to move onto the cab kit.  I can see the advantage and will remove the seat.  My seat needs to have new upholstery anyway.   

I also looked at removing the bracket just now and initially I didn't see how that would be easier until I looked on the left side of the cab when standing in the back and saw the two bolts for the anchor bracket were accessible from the left side.  Will probably get to it this weekend. 

I have to figure out how to do the shifting cable next.  Did you do that one?  If so, what was that process?
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I'm doing the same cable swap right now too. This is on a 7040 PD and what a pain in the arse it is. The park cable was fairly easy but am struggling with the U bolt on the big range cable. I will have to dive back into it tomorrow after work. How hard is it to unbolt the bracket with the U bolt Doc?
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Remove that bracket, cut 1/2 moon notches in it to slide over knobs that it bolts to. Fasten cable on, then slide it in and bolt it back down.           MACK
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Mack, I am not following the half moon cuts?   I think you are saying cut a slot on the anchor bracket so you can leave the bolts in place and then slide the anchor plate on after everything is in place then tighten down.  I guess that prevents you from having to hit the hole with the bolt on the far side of the valve stack.  It does look like a pain.  That anchor plate sure is big considering what it is holding.  I will find out this weekend. 

Still looking for guidance on the Shift cable since I have a game plan on the hi/lo cable now.  Is it an equal pain in the butt?
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Do not get mean and rough with the small side-shift cable. If you put any bends or kinks in it, it will not work well after installation is complete.
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