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53' model CA won't start?
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Ignition voltage can jump a half inch gap at atmospheric pressure but only the plug gap at compression pressure. Bare wires will arc easily.

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Slightly off topic but to Gearld's point my dad routinely used a match book jumper (over the plug and holding the plug wire) to help clean fouled plugs. Spark would jump 3/8 inch at least. Not saying that the bare wire is the current problem, but it could use a new one, just to rule that out.
I have seen all kinds of bad wires on these old tractors. 
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Edited by Sugarmaker - 29 Mar 2018 at 3:05pm
D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Not sure what I did?

Yesterday removed Hood to gain better visual of the points

Came home today installed a inline spark plug tester, turned key to see what kind of spark would show with newly bought spark plug tester and pop, pop, vroooom!

She's running?!?

Maybe I just needed to show the old girl that I wasn't giving up on figuring it out...

Let run for 15 minutes and ramped the rpm up a few good times to blow out the cobweb's and started 1/2 dozen more times and fired right up!!!

Now I need to get one rear tire fixed( won't hold air)one front( same thing)

It does kinda sputter every 10 seconds or so, but not bad at all( very slight)
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May be timed a tad fast or a little water in the tank, but the sediment bowl should trap that.
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Added new 90 octane gas( no ethanol) so I dought water, I'm leaning towards timing/ tune up needed
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Maybe you had spark jumping somewhere and moving the hood stopped the spark jumping?
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Originally posted by WF owner WF owner wrote:

Maybe you had spark jumping somewhere and moving the hood stopped the spark jumping?

That's a good possibility if the wires have any bad spot in the insulation. That voltage will find the easiest path to ground, and a spark plug under compression, isn't the easy way if there is a "leak" somewhere else.
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x3 on that
3 Ford 8N's I loan to neighbors, but the '52CA, '41B and little B1 I do not.
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So now that I have better visual on the point s and everything is still kind of a part should I still take the time to check the.20 Gap in the points?
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Or is that not likely cause of my slight sputter occasionally?
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Like a fellow said "No time like the present!"
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Apparently you have the plug wires hooked up correctly.  That's no a very good pic to show the plug wires and where they go.
For future reference, note where #1 is!!  At some point you just might take the cap off and then not thinking, take the wires out to replace them and ,,,,,,,,,,,oops.
Sounds like you have a pinched wire under that hood somewhere.  Follow the wires from the battery to switch, from switch to starter.  From battery to coil to dizzy.  Look closely at the wires.  Starting to look shoddy??  It's pretty cheap to replace and then you have peace of mind.
You've got the right idea, DON'T GIVE UP!
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This forum limits pixle amount uploaded

But yeah my original picture of it was entire area and somehow got limited down to that zoomed in area
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Yeah, you have to down size the pics before you load em.  Kind of a PITA, but it isn't that hard.  Reminds me,,,,,,,,I have a job to do....
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Not hard but resulting picture quality isn't the best, at least with using Android/ Google photos app...
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Are there any tips/ tricks for replacing spark plug wires?

I have a new( never used set I bought for my Allis Chalmers"B" but never installed them there...
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Wasn't sure if they would work fine for both tractors ( model "B" and "CA")?same spark plug wires?
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Yes they do.
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