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    Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 7:10pm
Greetings to all,
I got a straight WD, it runs very good, it has pretty good 16.9-28 back tires, and not too many leaks. My most favorite thing about it is it starts on a half a crank. It also has been converted to alternator and negative ground. Might paint it up some time after I get the “bugs” worked out of it.

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Congrats on the new tractor! They can still do some work! Have fun with it!
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Always glad to hear when someone adopts another Allis. Those WDs are mostly pretty easy to work on. I'm sure you will enjoy it and thanks for sharing the picture. Let us know about what you do to your new project.
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Gratz on the new addition to the family.

Not many leaks is just a great reason to justify painting.... at least that's what I tell my wife LOL
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How far apart do people take these older tractors apart for a restoration? Just out of curiosity. Thinking of a frame down paint job next year when it warms up.
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Well to each there own. I do refurb, clean and paint. I dont go to the level of rerstoration. But I have taken the frame rails off each of the tractors that I painted. Also almost all of the other bolt on components too. It is a lot of work and time. I am happy with the end results. Would recommend the best automotive or industrial paint you can get too. my first one has faded some due to using paint without hardners and lower cost paint. Good luck with your tractor! They sure do look sharp with a new paint job!
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Put new spark plugs (Autolight 295)
And a new radiator hose. The old hose fell apart. And got it back together and started it. It started on the second crank with no choke so thought I might have got the spark plugs right.
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good looking wd;; got a 48 an 49 an 50+51 like them all.
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So now with a update.
Got ready to drive it on a five mile road trip home and as so as I got to the driveway it started spitting and sputtering so I put it on half choke and it died so started it again and got in the shed so I cleaned out the sentiment bowl and it ran fine. I think I will take the gas tank off and clean it out.
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Originally posted by 55allis 55allis wrote:

Does this look like a good paint and the right paint

Correct paint is Persion Orange #1.....but a lot of people use the newer color.
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Originally posted by Brian G.  NY Brian G. NY wrote:

Originally posted by 55allis 55allis wrote:

Does this look like a good paint and the right paint


Correct paint is Persion Orange #1.....but a lot of people use the newer color.

That same place has Persian #1 but it’s not in stock.
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I’m thinking that the Tallman’s ag Specialty Paint is the same as Van Sickle paint but not sure.
I called Tallmans and they told me to order off of VanSicklepaint.com.
It is about $40 for a gallon of Persian #1.
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The tractors I've painted. I just take the sheet metal parts off easy off scrape and hot pressure wash then paint the alternator starter and distributor cap come off tape it up. Block it up and remove the rims. If you not removing the tires just tape up the rubber. The cast parts I paint over the original paint and sand and prime the sheet metal. Hang it all up with safety wire and you can paint it all in one shot. I dues van sickle restoration paint add the hardener and reducer according to the instructions on the can. My tractor park inside but 20 years after the last paint they still look good. Only bad paint I have is the rear step where I throw the chains. I put no skid on the step.
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I guess you'll have to change your handle on here too!Thumbs Up
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Ok now I’m wondering if anyone has put carriage bolts on the hood-to-radiator shell bolts?
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Why would you want to its already hard enough to hold a wrench in side to keep a nut from turning. I do use carrage bolts in the top two holes they have a washer and nut to sandwich the light brackets that are then tightened into the weld nuts with a locknut up inside to keep from turning. Gives the tractor a bug eye look but the factory lights are mostly useless when you have a loader on.
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Were they originally a machine bolt with a slotted head for flat screwdriver?
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Originally posted by plummerscarin plummerscarin wrote:

Were they originally a machine bolt with a slotted head for flat screwdriver?

Yes I’m thinking that would be true.
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I used round headed screws with alan slots on my 45
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Would anyone know what kind of decals it should have? I have a new-old stock kit I found weather it is the right one.
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Mine are a little different. lets see if I can find a picture or two. These are from Sandy Lake but sure others have them too. I believe these to be more correct on the name.
They have a white outline:

I have seen the ones you have used. I dont think they are correct. But they sure will work if they will stick. The exact location is another questionable thing. I found a original tractor with the decals and used those dimensions to set name decals.

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Originally posted by 55allis 55allis wrote:

Would anyone know what kind of decals it should have? I have a new-old stock kit I found weather it is the right one.


These are decals from the 1970s.  Not correct for a 50s era tractor, but that is what Allis carried at the time.  They should look like what is shown in Sugarmaker's picture.  Get a good vinyl set from Maple Hunter.


Edited by DSeries4 - 16 Jan 2021 at 10:15am
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Ok. Now it shows three different kinds so it has a cheaper kit , a vinyl kit, and a blue kit.
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I dont think you want the blue. I believe those were on some WC or very early WD's. Someone will let you know. 
Did you try Maple Hunter? They have a good selection. I get mine from Sandy Lake sometimes too.
Good luck in your hunt! 
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

I dont think you want the blue. I believe those were on some WC or very early WD's. Someone will let you know. 
Did you try Maple Hunter? They have a good selection. I get mine from Sandy Lake sometimes too.
Good luck in your hunt! 
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That picture is a screenshot of maple Hunter Decals.
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Vinyl cut is what I use from Maple Hunter. They have good decals although I cant tell if that has the white background that Chris has. Spay water on with a water bottle and apply. The water allows movement of the decal to place it. Blot dry and squeegee the bubbles out.
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55,
 Sorry I missed that. I didnt read down in the add far enough. I have had reall good service from them too. When I messed up my WD45 hood name decals they sent me a new set before I even paid for them!
There is a technique to applying the decals too. I would have to go back and look at some pictures because I am old and have CRS! I believe mine were the vinyl decals. 
I think you want the ones with the white background.

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I just remembered I have ordered decals from them before for a ji case and haven’t had any problems yet. I just drew a line with a pencil and lined it as much as possible. The picture below is of it.

Sorry for it being a case.
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