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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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Greetings to all,
I got a straight WD, it runs very good, it has pretty good 16.9-28 back tires, and not too many leaks. My most favorite thing about it is it starts on a half a crank. It also has been converted to alternator and negative ground. Might paint it up some time after I get the “bugs” worked out of it. ![]() |
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Sugarmaker ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8448 |
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Congrats on the new tractor! They can still do some work! Have fun with it!
Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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ac hunter ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 2011 Location: OHIO Points: 1045 |
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Always glad to hear when someone adopts another Allis. Those WDs are mostly pretty easy to work on. I'm sure you will enjoy it and thanks for sharing the picture. Let us know about what you do to your new project.
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jlbintn ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Nov 2019 Location: Charleston, TN Points: 138 |
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Gratz on the new addition to the family. Not many leaks is just a great reason to justify painting.... at least that's what I tell my wife
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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How far apart do people take these older tractors apart for a restoration? Just out of curiosity. Thinking of a frame down paint job next year when it warms up.
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Sugarmaker ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8448 |
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Well to each there own. I do refurb, clean and paint. I dont go to the level of rerstoration. But I have taken the frame rails off each of the tractors that I painted. Also almost all of the other bolt on components too. It is a lot of work and time. I am happy with the end results. Would recommend the best automotive or industrial paint you can get too. my first one has faded some due to using paint without hardners and lower cost paint. Good luck with your tractor! They sure do look sharp with a new paint job!
Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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Does this look like a good paint and the right paint?
https://www.tractorpartsasap.com/allis-chalmers-persian-orange-ii-tractor-paint-108317.html |
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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Put new spark plugs (Autolight 295)
And a new radiator hose. The old hose fell apart. And got it back together and started it. It started on the second crank with no choke so thought I might have got the spark plugs right. ![]() |
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dawntreader74 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Location: Manteno Points: 1770 |
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good looking wd;; got a 48 an 49 an 50+51 like them all.
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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So now with a update.
Got ready to drive it on a five mile road trip home and as so as I got to the driveway it started spitting and sputtering so I put it on half choke and it died so started it again and got in the shed so I cleaned out the sentiment bowl and it ran fine. I think I will take the gas tank off and clean it out. ![]() |
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Brian G. NY ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: 12194 Points: 2259 |
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Correct paint is Persion Orange #1.....but a lot of people use the newer color.
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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That same place has Persian #1 but it’s not in stock. |
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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I’m thinking that the Tallman’s ag Specialty Paint is the same as Van Sickle paint but not sure.
I called Tallmans and they told me to order off of VanSicklepaint.com. It is about $40 for a gallon of Persian #1. |
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Dakota Dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3969 |
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The tractors I've painted. I just take the sheet metal parts off easy off scrape and hot pressure wash then paint the alternator starter and distributor cap come off tape it up. Block it up and remove the rims. If you not removing the tires just tape up the rubber. The cast parts I paint over the original paint and sand and prime the sheet metal. Hang it all up with safety wire and you can paint it all in one shot. I dues van sickle restoration paint add the hardener and reducer according to the instructions on the can. My tractor park inside but 20 years after the last paint they still look good. Only bad paint I have is the rear step where I throw the chains. I put no skid on the step.
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john(MI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9262 |
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I guess you'll have to change your handle on here too!
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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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Ok now I’m wondering if anyone has put carriage bolts on the hood-to-radiator shell bolts?
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Dakota Dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3969 |
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Why would you want to its already hard enough to hold a wrench in side to keep a nut from turning. I do use carrage bolts in the top two holes they have a washer and nut to sandwich the light brackets that are then tightened into the weld nuts with a locknut up inside to keep from turning. Gives the tractor a bug eye look but the factory lights are mostly useless when you have a loader on.
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plummerscarin ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3857 |
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Were they originally a machine bolt with a slotted head for flat screwdriver?
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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Yes I’m thinking that would be true. ![]() |
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LaJaMe ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2014 Location: wisconsin Points: 172 |
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I used round headed screws with alan slots on my 45
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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Would anyone know what kind of decals it should have? I have a new-old stock kit I found weather it is the right one.
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Sugarmaker ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8448 |
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55,
Mine are a little different. lets see if I can find a picture or two. These are from Sandy Lake but sure others have them too. I believe these to be more correct on the name. They have a white outline: ![]() I have seen the ones you have used. I dont think they are correct. But they sure will work if they will stick. The exact location is another questionable thing. I found a original tractor with the decals and used those dimensions to set name decals. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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DSeries4 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7472 |
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These are decals from the 1970s. Not correct for a 50s era tractor, but that is what Allis carried at the time. They should look like what is shown in Sugarmaker's picture. Get a good vinyl set from Maple Hunter.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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Ok. Now it shows three different kinds so it has a cheaper kit , a vinyl kit, and a blue kit.
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Sugarmaker ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8448 |
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I dont think you want the blue. I believe those were on some WC or very early WD's. Someone will let you know.
Did you try Maple Hunter? They have a good selection. I get mine from Sandy Lake sometimes too. Good luck in your hunt! Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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That picture is a screenshot of maple Hunter Decals. |
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AC720Man ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 5168 |
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Vinyl cut is what I use from Maple Hunter. They have good decals although I cant tell if that has the white background that Chris has. Spay water on with a water bottle and apply. The water allows movement of the decal to place it. Blot dry and squeegee the bubbles out.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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Here is a link to their website https://www.maplehunterdecalsindiana.com/allis-chalmerswdvinylcut.aspx
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Sugarmaker ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8448 |
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55,
Sorry I missed that. I didnt read down in the add far enough. I have had reall good service from them too. When I messed up my WD45 hood name decals they sent me a new set before I even paid for them! There is a technique to applying the decals too. I would have to go back and look at some pictures because I am old and have CRS! I believe mine were the vinyl decals. I think you want the ones with the white background. Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 897 |
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I just remembered I have ordered decals from them before for a ji case and haven’t had any problems yet. I just drew a line with a pencil and lined it as much as possible. The picture below is of it.
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