1930's Ford "Wide 5" on a 60!

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   going on the cheap is the most expensive thing that you could possibly do. cut those buggers up. I have the original tools and the experience to do those and I will not tell or show anyone how to use them and do not really want to do them any more myself. as far as the log chain for a safety, I have done that too and a friend that owns a tire shop tells me that you can break a good chain if the tire comes apart.(20 inch truck rim). I once had a 16 inch split ring blow off and went through 20 feet of standing orchard grass waist high, so even the smaller ones have a real punch. I also knew a friend that blew the inside split in the middle rim on a bulk gas truck and it broke the brake drum. these critters are not to be messed with. DOT outlawed them on new trucks around 1968. if you are going to redo it not back to original maybe use a mobile home idler axle and use a spacer on top of the axle stub to get the correct height needed. the older mh axles were made by dexter and I have 8 hole dexter hubs that fit right on the axle bearings and all. some think mh axles are junk but it you get the right ones they are good. the best I can tell they have the same wall thickness on the tube as a 7k commercial axle. the big difference is the cheap bearings. 

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Steve Zidlicky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Bolivar, MO Points: 325	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steve Zidlicky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 7:41am
	going on the cheap is the most expensive thing that you could possibly do. cut those buggers up. I have the original tools and the experience to do those and I will not tell or show anyone how to use them and do not really want to do them any more myself. as far as the log chain for a safety, I have done that too and a friend that owns a tire shop tells me that you can break a good chain if the tire comes apart.(20 inch truck rim). I once had a 16 inch split ring blow off and went through 20 feet of standing orchard grass waist high, so even the smaller ones have a real punch. I also knew a friend that blew the inside split in the middle rim on a bulk gas truck and it broke the brake drum. these critters are not to be messed with. DOT outlawed them on new trucks around 1968. if you are going to redo it not back to original maybe use a mobile home idler axle and use a spacer on top of the axle stub to get the correct height needed. the older mh axles were made by dexter and I have 8 hole dexter hubs that fit right on the axle bearings and all. some think mh axles are junk but it you get the right ones they are good. the best I can tell they have the same wall thickness on the tube as a 7k commercial axle. the big difference is the cheap bearings.

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GaryL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Oklahoma Points: 704	Post Options Post Reply Quote GaryL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 10:24am
	The lug pattern for the old VW wide-5s is 205mm; however, the rims vary in diameter and width. The Type 1 (Beetle & Karmann Ghia) and Type 3 (Squareback/Fastback/Notchback) are 15" diameter, while the Type 2 (Bus/Truck) are 16" diameter. So, check the lug pattern on your tractor before embarking on a search. Finding old VW rims "for next to nothing" may be very difficult. Junkyards have been cleaned out over the years, and restorers are paying premiums for rims based on date-stamps and width. Then, there's the possibility you could luck out and find a wide-5 for a Porsche 356. If that's the case, throw that sucker on e-Bay and watch people bid it up over $300. 16" Type 2 rims will also fetch a good price. The biggest VW junkyard in the Oklahoma area (Wilson's) was cleaned out about 10 years ago after LeRoy Wilson passed away. Whatever couldn't be sold for outlandish money by his son-in-law was crushed. Bethany Foreign Imports, in OKC, might have some, but even they are pretty much done with vintage VW stuff. The only other "close" places I can think of are Earl Mann's, down in Ardmore, and Admiral VW Salvage, up in the Tulsa area. Good luck.

Gerald J. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gerald J. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 10:30am
	I think it would be best to replace the hubs to take 5 or 6 bolt implement wheels. First thing is to take off the present hubs and measure the spindle diameters for the bearings and the distances between them. Also the seal diameter. Then look at Shoup and Baum Hydraulics for spindles the same dimensions. If found they will have hubs with bearings to fit. If the spacing is the same, but the diameters aren't the same, compare the bearing cone assemblies in the Baum Hydraulics tapered roller bearing section to find different cone assemblies to fit the ring in the hub and the present spindle. Do the same for the seal and order parts and put it together. The .pdf catalog from Baum Hydraulics searches a ton better than their on line search. http://www.baumhydraulics.com http://www.shoupparts.com Gerald J.