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190XT / D17

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    Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 11:55am
Can anyone tell me if a 190XT Gas engine would anyway shape or form fit into a D17?  How much horsepower do you think a D17 running gear hold up to?  There is a couple of Oliver 88's in our area with 1850 gas engines ruling the roost in the 4500lb to 7500lb open classes.  I would like to see a D17 on steriods get their attention:)  Thanks for any info!
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I assume you have 1959 production rules?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Charlie175 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 1:44pm
There is a WD45 running a Turbo 301 pushing over 100 hp locally that has had no issues with the rear end. It did shear an axle though.

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Is there alot of difference between the D19 gas engine and the 190xt 301 gas engine?
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Huge difference between the 262 gas and a 301. We've covered this topic before and for the money I'd get a combine adapter and drop in a Chevy 292 as there's lots of mods available and they make tons of power. 
Yea, I can fix that.....
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Now you 're getting my attention!  It is going to have to be pretty beefy as I know these Olivers are starting out with a 90+hp gas engine out of an 1850 and then port/polishing the head, one is even stroked with defferent cam, so I know probably well into the mid 100hp range anyway.  I'm know stranger to making horsepower on the GM Big Block V8 side but the buzzn half dozen I 'm just starting to get my feet wet!..
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A chevy 292 is probably 140-150 h.p. Stock. Only problem I see is rpm's the 292 makes that kind of power at a lot higher rpms that the oliver 1850 engines your talking about.
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Cam should take care of the rpm/hp issue with the 292. Just need a grind to help with low end torque. I'd just build a stout 226 or 262 to stay all orange.
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A 292 chevy is still disadvantaged against the cubic inches you   can get out of the oliver.then theres the red diamond 500 inch for the ih. A stroked 426 converted to alky would be the engine that got the rules changed.
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Allis had that tractor from the factory, they called it a 180,  Ya I know its a 265 but wondering if a 180 chasis plus a 301 and  d17 sheetmetal would be a easier/better route?  

I agree about the cubes if those Olivers are as big as the outlaw Olivers around these parts.
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I have gave some serious thoughts on upsetting the rules some.the 426 should or since combines had v8 chevies a person could get around the no v8 clause by milling one bank off a a 632in bbc to make a stought little four banger or just put the big oliver wakeshau in the allis since they were purchased and merged.

Edited by mlpankey - 08 Oct 2012 at 4:51pm
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butch...the 180 diesels are 301 so it will definatly bolt up a gasser
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