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Topic: 190XT / D17

Posted By: Hurricane Allis
Subject: 190XT / D17
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 11:55am

Can anyone tell me if a 190XT Gas engine would anyway shape or form fit into a D17? How much horsepower do you think a D17 running gear hold up to? There is a couple of Oliver 88's in our area with 1850 gas engines ruling the roost in the 4500lb to 7500lb open classes. I would like to see a D17 on steriods get their attention:) Thanks for any info!

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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 1:41pm

I assume you have 1959 production rules?

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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD

Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 1:44pm

There is a WD45 running a Turbo 301 pushing over 100 hp locally that has had no issues with the rear end. It did shear an axle though.

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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD

Posted By: Hurricane Allis
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 9:33pm

Is there alot of difference between the D19 gas engine and the 190xt 301 gas engine?

Posted By: D-17_Dave
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 10:59pm

Huge difference between the 262 gas and a 301. We've covered this topic before and for the money I'd get a combine adapter and drop in a Chevy 292 as there's lots of mods available and they make tons of power.

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Posted By: Hurricane Allis
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 7:23am

Now you 're getting my attention! It is going to have to be pretty beefy as I know these Olivers are starting out with a 90+hp gas engine out of an 1850 and then port/polishing the head, one is even stroked with defferent cam, so I know probably well into the mid 100hp range anyway. I'm know stranger to making horsepower on the GM Big Block V8 side but the buzzn half dozen I 'm just starting to get my feet wet!..

Posted By: cornbinder
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 5:34am

A chevy 292 is probably 140-150 h.p. Stock. Only problem I see is rpm's the 292 makes that kind of power at a lot higher rpms that the oliver 1850 engines your talking about.

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185-d yr round cab
95 mustang gt 5.0
86 mustang 5.0 coupe
3 99 f-250 7.3 4x4's
96 f-250 7.3 4x4

Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 2:00pm

Cam should take care of the rpm/hp issue with the 292. Just need a grind to help with low end torque. I'd just build a stout 226 or 262 to stay all orange.

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 2:15pm

A 292 chevy is still disadvantaged against the cubic inches you can get out of the oliver.then theres the red diamond 500 inch for the ih. A stroked 426 converted to alky would be the engine that got the rules changed.

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Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 3:27pm

Allis had that tractor from the factory, they called it a 180, Ya I know its a 265 but wondering if a 180 chasis plus a 301 and d17 sheetmetal would be a easier/better route?

I agree about the cubes if those Olivers are as big as the outlaw Olivers around these parts.

Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 4:45pm

I have gave some serious thoughts on upsetting the rules some.the 426 should or since combines had v8 chevies a person could get around the no v8 clause by milling one bank off a a 632in bbc to make a stought little four banger or just put the big oliver wakeshau in the allis since they were purchased and merged.

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people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra

Posted By: Mrgoodwrench
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 4:54pm

butch...the 180 diesels are 301 so it will definatly bolt up a gasser

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