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tractorman 
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 1:51pm |
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I have to take a rear wheel off my 190. What is the best way to do it, thworst seems to be that big bolted bushing ?
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Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190
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nevans
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 4:05pm |
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if you mean the cast center then yes the three bolts have to come out and three pusher bolts go in and you push the center off the bushing and then you have to spread the bushing a little to get it to slide off Niel
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 7:18pm |
This old post may help
Edited by Beirnesy - 13 May 2015 at 9:26pm
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DougG
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 7:25pm |
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Get those pusher bolts super tight- then wack the end of the axle with a 13 lb sledge hammer, that sends vibrations into it all
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tractorman
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 8:39pm |
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where do i get the pusher bolts ?
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Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190
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BPM75
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 9:37pm |
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If you don't have them I've heard of some guys having them made at a machine shop. I don't remember the dimensions but I'm sure someone on here will know.
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 9:55pm |
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Can you just remove the rim and leave the wheel center on the axle? That would be a bit easier.
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tractorman
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Posted: 13 May 2015 at 8:46am |
just talked to my dealer, $80.00 each, it didn't happen, they don't rent or loan anymore. It just couldn't happen they would be the same as theones that green color used ?? Ido have a good machinest, any body have the dimensions?? thanks
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Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190
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DSeries4
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Posted: 13 May 2015 at 8:52am |
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Never used them, but I heard they are made of VERY hard steel. Might be hard for a machinist to make.
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Posted: 13 May 2015 at 7:19pm |
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They have to be hard. I had a machinist buddy make them out of standard dowl rod. Didn't last to long before they bent all to he!!
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Posted: 13 May 2015 at 7:48pm |
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my method worked very well,i put the pusher bolts in tight and using just a 3 lb hammer tapped on top of axle,both sides popped without hardly any effort and they had not been moved in 30 years,also did my d21 and they moved easily too,i learned this trick from the local tire company as they happened to have done this on a 7580,no swinging a heavy sledge!
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Posted: 13 May 2015 at 8:16pm |
Back 15 years ago or so I bought them for something like $3 or $4 each. Talk about a mark up 
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Posted: 13 May 2015 at 8:30pm |
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You can get a piece of 1/4 in thick flat in between the cast center and the hub and put a regular bolt in and push off the flat metal. not easy but I have done it several times. takes a pretty good impact gun and get them tight and wack it with a hammer.
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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 7:46am |
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You talk about good luck, you wont believe this, I was reading this thread 2 days ago and thought I may have to move the wheels on my xt someday, and how will I do that, and In the middle of night or something like that, I said to myself, I have seen those push bolts sometime, somewhere, or am I just remembering using them 50 yrs. ago helping my uncle move wheels when he pulled his xt at the local fair. I am now 66 and 16 to 20 yrs old when this happen. So, first thing yesterday I jump in pickup and go over to my uncle farm, which I now own, bought back 15 yrs. ago and start looking around the old, round pole, tool shed, which has the old corrugated galvanizes steel, and believe it or not, there is next to nothing in this shed except machinery, I found In the corrugation, between the ripples, 4 I tell you xt rear wheel push bolts. I WAS THRILLED TO DEAD !!!!! I thought now, that is some good memory, at my age.
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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 9:17am |
Be careful. I'm very close to your age. Excitement nearly kills me to dead too. 
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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 11:38am |
 kmorth wrote:
You can get a piece of 1/4 in thick flat in between the cast center and the hub and put a regular bolt in and push off the flat metal. not easy but I have done it several times. takes a pretty good impact gun and get them tight and wack it with a hammer. |
I've done this too but have pushed the plate into the threaded hole once that buggered up the first couple threads. Maybe a hardened plate would work better.
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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 8:02am |
I made a 3 puller bolts per the image. I actually used a grade 5 although a grade 8 would be better. I tightened the bolts with an impact, an hammered on their heads in an alternating manner. 
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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 9:28am |
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Don't celebrate to much yet David,I have done that .But do you know where put them now that you moved them.
It starts with short term going first. Its what happened yesterday not what happened when you where a teen that goes first.
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