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Sparks farm 
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Posted: Yesterday at 9:49am |
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I have a stock 200 that i would like to have 15-20 more HP to help pull a Chopper is there a turbo or injector upgrade that would help without doing any pump work. Thanks
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DrAllis
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Posted: Yesterday at 11:07am |
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A "stock" 200 tractor was 94 PTO HP. There never used to be a problem turning out the torque screw several turns (or removing it and replacing with a plug) and getting 115 PTO HP. Takes 5 minutes to do. This assumes your pump and injectors are in good condition. More HP comes from more fuel. A better turbo won't change things much if any. Same for injectors unless yours currently have plugged holes. Increasing the high idle really helps on forage equipment performance.
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Sparks farm
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Posted: Yesterday at 11:13am |
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So is the torque screw on the outside of the pump? I read on another forum that you have to take the top off the pump to get to it.
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DrAllis
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Posted: Yesterday at 11:31am |
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The torque screw is external and located just above where the lines attach to the hydraulic head. It sticks up/out at a 45 degree angle and has a plastic cap on it that unthreads. A 7/16" wrench and an allen wrench to adjust it OUT. Just remove the whole thing and adjust it 3 or 4 turns and replace. Swinging room isn't much on the pump. Removal of the pumps lid and governor guts is for roller-to-roller dimension and if your torque screw change isn't enough, that's where you go next. Remember your cooling system and tight fan belts. A couple hundred more RPM really helps on a chopper !!!
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DrAllis
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Posted: 20 hours 54 minutes ago at 8:16pm |
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So, did you gain any ??
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Tenn allis
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Posted: 7 hours 53 minutes ago at 9:17am |
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Are you trying to pull a 2 row chopper with a 200 if you are you’re going to need around 150 horse on the pto
A 200 will handle a 1 row very good but if you double the material going thru the machine it’s gonna be very slow
We went from a 1 row to 2 row on a 7010 and it was a load on it
A 7045 or 8030 will handle a 2 row really good
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Kcgrain
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Posted: 3 hours 45 minutes ago at 1:25pm |
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What kind of chopper? I filled many many 20x70 with a 190XT3 chopping 2 rows with an 800 Gehl, and the neighbor had a 200 and a 600 Gehl and it was no challenge for either one of them, and hay was in 12ft swats. My uncle bought a 1070 to upgrade the xt in 79 and the 1070 couldn't hang with the XT especially in mud
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Allis dave
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Posted: 3 hours 17 minutes ago at 1:53pm |
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It all depends on your population and corn height. Chhopping corn in 1985 at 80,000 population is a lot different than chopping corn at 140,000 population. I've seen two row of corn taller than the tractor cab and 150hp could barely do. Go on the other side of the field out of the much chopping 6' tall corn and you had no problem and picked up a couple gears.
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Kcgrain
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Posted: 1 hour 48 minutes ago at 3:22pm |
140,000??? 80,0000? High yielding corn for grain is about 35,000.
I would hate to pay your seed bill
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 1 hour 22 minutes ago at 3:48pm |
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There's alot i don't know but that doesn't make sense to me either.
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DougG
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Posted: 37 minutes ago at 4:33pm |
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I think back in the early 2000,s my Uncle used my 200 with a Jd 38 2 row chopper- doing corn and millet mix- run in 3 rd- but also had a new engine and fuel was all redone- average corn - itd make it work- but thats what they are made for
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