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The color of his skin has NOTHING to do with it.  From everything I've seen, the only 'black privelage' flags ever associated with Tiger, were those flown by others.  It was a big deal to those who wanted to wave some sort of flag.  To sensible people, he was just a kid who was really, really, really good at golf.  When cornered by people who were TRYING to incide a race argument, Tiger took the same road as Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman:  Shoot it down.  Morgan's best line ever:  If you want RACISM to cease to exist, STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.

I'm not a golfer, my wife and her family are long-time experienced, and while I'm not great, I've proven that on a calm day, this uncultured troglodyte can swing a driver hard enough, and true enough to put it on a long-straight-fairway green with uncanny regularity, much to the chagrin of all those around.  Sometimes I can even putt, but know the detailed rules and undocumented social ettiquette I do not.  It's a game of stick-ball to me, and I don't give a hoot about the shoes or  dress code.

Call him a golf pro, call him a prodigy superstar, an addict, a philanderer, or even a quiet man, but don't call him a waver of race-card.  It is for the simple fact that he doesn't do that, that he is respected.  Don't think for a moment that there aren't other pro golfers out there that have tumultuous histories and home problems, that particular profession, and the insistance of paparazzi and public to want to saturate themselves into a person's life is one of the most misunderstood and poisonous punishments ever.  As the late Neil Peart wrote, living the limelight is a universal dream, yet there is no happiness to be found when imprisoned in a gilded cage. 

Having been many times just-close-enough to see where I DON'T want to be, a word of advice for anyone ever in a position to meet someone famous:  Treat them like any other person- Ignore them.  be polite, don't call them by their name, even if you know it,  and don't tell them anything more than your first.  Don't ask them about their work, or life.  If they're crabby, walk away.   If they want to talk, let THEM pick the subject.  The really famous people I know, I met through hobbies, so we talk about HAM radio, old cars, metalworking, and fishing.

I feel sad that he's injured, I hope he recovers.  I'm injured too, recovering from knee surgery, probably much better off than he'll be, because I can work from home 'till they let me drive, then I'll be back to normal, with probably no measureable loss of capacity.  His job, not so much.

And for all the reason above, I feel sad for him.  He doesn't get to have a real life like you guys and I do.  Take a look at the lyrics to Lynrd Skynrd's "Don't ask me no questions", and imagine having a life where an army of crazy people are always in your face.

He wrecked his car.  Perhaps, at that moment, it wasn't such an accident.


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Personally, I don't follow nor hold ANY celebrity as a hero, or someone to look up to, they are all cut from the same human cloth, as the rest of us.   I do get a little perturbed, when they get special treatment, but that's human nature, I guess...Wink
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Yep.  My dad used to say "they put their pants on one leg at a time, just like i do."
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Who won the NASCAR race today ?
He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.
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I dont follow golf at all.. Dont know nothing about it... But i will admitt, if you took the 10 great golfers off all times and printed their pictures, T Woods would be the ONLY one that i could name. ............ maybe A Palmer from all the old commercials . Wink

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It is great to find your talent earlier than latter. Along with the old saw, have a job you like, you never work a day in your life. But I am not coming up with any person that gained fame before having a real childhood that has handled it well. About a sure thing they will turn to a chemical to look for happiness, which is always disaster.


Not following Tiger at all I wish him and other child prodigies well in life. But I am not interested in following any of them. Maybe this is Gods way of taking pressure off Tiger, if he has permit damage to his leg's.   He is not letting his dad down if he is not the champion anymore.

Wink When I saw this topic was still current, Confused and only a few said they follow golf. LOL But we all get sucked into fame and fortune. Even if just to say it is over rated.LOL 
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re: Who won the NASCAR race today ?

whoever crosses the finish line first......

Now WHO will win the 'cup' ? It can actually be someone who never,ever crosses the finish line first .......

I only watch the last 10-20 laps since they run in 'segments' or whatever they call a run of 30-50 laps.......
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So the black box says Tiger was going 87 MPH in a 45 MPH zone... That caused the crash... BUTT, BUTT, BUTT... he will not get a ticket.... "NOBODY" saw him going that fast !!!  LOL
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Aint this all a bunch of horse crap !
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so... next time yYOU get caught doing 40 OVER , clain the 'Tiger woods defence'....
heck , claim it, doing 10 over...so how far that gets you....Big smile
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

So the black box says Tiger was going 87 MPH in a 45 MPH zone... That caused the crash... BUTT, BUTT, BUTT... he will not get a ticket.... "NOBODY" saw him going that fast !!!  LOL

Be very careful what you wish for.  I don't think you want the authorities coming and checking your vehicle whenever they wish, based on an anonymous tip,  checking speed, GPS, etc and writing you a ticket for speeding through school zones or wherever based on the black box info.  Red light camera's in MO are illegal for that very reason, no human involvement, what was stated to stop bad crashes at so called problem intersections became giving tickets to drivers who didn't make an absolute complete stop for the, "right turn on red," or stopping slightly in front of the white line.   Revenue from people running red lights fell dramatically because people adapt and quit running red lights so the infraction search expanded.  KCMO had to refund almost 2 years worth of fines.
Tiger was verrrry wrong, he could be ticketed for careless driving but opening the black box would be a Pandora effect.

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 Insurance company will have the  air bag 'black box ' data..are then able to NOT pay out on any insurance claims.... that's done all the time....
Also if uoi opt in for one of those 'aps' or OBDII boxes the car insurance people offer, you legally give away a LOT of personal data to ANYONE in the world who'll pay for it

We have Red light cameras, BIG money maker.. as OWNER of the vehicle HAS to pay the fine or you can't get your tags next year. BIG fine..but NO 'points'. They do help slow down SOME people, not all of course.
They'll net 10s of ,1000s down the road from me over the next 2 years as a slow speed sideroad WILL be the main road while 1/2mile of road is being upgraded.
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Originally posted by JW in MO JW in MO wrote:

Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

So the black box says Tiger was going 87 MPH in a 45 MPH zone... That caused the crash... BUTT, BUTT, BUTT... he will not get a ticket.... "NOBODY" saw him going that fast !!!  LOL

Be very careful what you wish for.  I don't think you want the authorities coming and checking your vehicle whenever they wish, based on an anonymous tip,  checking speed, GPS, etc and writing you a ticket for speeding through school zones or wherever based on the black box info.  Red light camera's in MO are illegal for that very reason, no human involvement, what was stated to stop bad crashes at so called problem intersections became giving tickets to drivers who didn't make an absolute complete stop for the, "right turn on red," or stopping slightly in front of the white line.   Revenue from people running red lights fell dramatically because people adapt and quit running red lights so the infraction search expanded.  KCMO had to refund almost 2 years worth of fines.
Tiger was verrrry wrong, he could be ticketed for careless driving but opening the black box would be a Pandora effect.


This is what I was thinking. A good thing that this layer hasn’t been broken yet.
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

 Insurance company will have the  air bag 'black box ' data..are then able to NOT pay out on any insurance claims.... that's done all the time....
Also if uoi opt in for one of those 'aps' or OBDII boxes the car insurance people offer, you legally give away a LOT of personal data to ANYONE in the world who'll pay for it

We have Red light cameras, BIG money maker.. as OWNER of the vehicle HAS to pay the fine or you can't get your tags next year. BIG fine..but NO 'points'. They do help slow down SOME people, not all of course.
They'll net 10s of ,1000s down the road from me over the next 2 years as a slow speed sideroad WILL be the main road while 1/2mile of road is being upgraded.

Insurance would still pay in Michigan. Rates would go up but they would pay. Canada sucks. Everything like that varies state to state.
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sounds to me like this latest wreck was a suicide attempt? 
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Right, cuz nobody ever drives fast on a winding road for fun.
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TWICE the limit ?  I dont know too many people that drive 90 MPH on a winding road that is posted 45 MPH... ????   .............. most could not hold it on the road if they were on the Interstate !
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Most couldn’t hold 90 on the interstate??? Hahaha, you ever been on the interstate?

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YEP.... ever seen how many PLOW into the back of the guy in front of them... flip over in the ditch..."MOST" are not capable of that speed.... even in a STRAIGHT line........ and TIGER was trying to do it on a winding 45 mph road ?   55 or 60 MAYBE, NOT 90 !

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And they have yet to mention.....was he also texting or talking on his cell phone while driving nearly 90 mph in a 45 mph zone?

My guess is he does this all the time.......and physics caught up with him this time.
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He had the pedal BURIED to the floor..... Shammers could be right !

Woods was driving at an unsafe speed when he wrecked his vehicle in the Los Angeles area in February, authorities said Wednesday. Woods was driving between 84 and 87 mph when he first made impact, Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva said during a news conference. He was driving 75 mph when the vehicle hit a tree. The posted speed limit was 45 mph.

Authorities said there was no evidence of impairment when first responders arrived. Officials said Woods had no recollection of the wreck. Villanueva vigorously denied that authorities gave Woods special treatment in the case.

Los Angeles Sheriff’s Capt. James C. Powers said the black box in the vehicle revealed that Woods’ acceleration pedal percentage, which is the pressure applied to the accelerator pedal at the time of the crash, was at 99% at all of the areas of impact in the collision.



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Funny is;  the people that start these posts and complain about what they are complaining about!  I think it just spreads the news even further.  I saw they had determined what  the cause was but didn't bother reading it.  

I was between two cars going 90 or faster up the Eway one day.  That was fun, but I don't often do it and never if the Queen is with me!


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the fastest i've ever driven was 140 and change in my cruiser, i backed out of it as the car began to float, never do that again, a dead Deputy is no good to anyone! Tiger can do anything he wants to, just so he don't take someone else with him!
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Well evidently NOT Shameless, is doubtful with the pins in his foot he will ever make a effective golf swing again and as to pain, he was already addicted to Back Pain Meds.
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You need to get off Tigers back. He probably had a back spasm that caused him to floor it. He's a victim here. It's Bidens fault. That or he sniffed some Roundup while on the golf course and it's Monsanto's fault. But not his fault just because he was behind the wheel.
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re: But not his fault just because he was behind the wheel.

Ultimately HE was the driver and is responsible, needs to be charged. Minimum of 'careless driving', though 'dangerous driving ' is probably the correct charge, as well as damaging private property.
If you'd done what he did, you'd have been charged......
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I have been tempted to get into this discussion, but other than a big X2 to what JW said, I fear saying much more would only provide proof of how foolishly I spent my youth, and 'youth' is relative....I was younger yesterday than I am today, so that would be my youth.

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Lou... i dont know when your YOUTH stopped, but Tiger is 45 years old !
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Id say one of those fancy hookers he had in the past had something to do with it 
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