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    Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 4:03pm
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SIL has an old 70 ft long trailer. Cant find anyone that wants to buy / haul it off site so i decided to tear down in place, sell as i go, and keep the frame for future use.

Took off the  7 x 8 porch of plywood and 2x4... built a deer blind 4 x 6 ft for son.. Sold the electrical breaker box , couple dozen electrical plugs and light switches.  Have 6 interior doors, stove, storm windows, etc all to go soon.  

Outside walls are 2 x 6 !!  Has tin on the outside, 6 inch fiberglass bats, then 3/8 drywall on inside.  interior walls are 2 x 3 with 3/8 drywall on them... Tearing off the drywall and taking down inside walls and saving the 2 x 3.. Drywall goes in the dumpster.. When everything is cleaned out on the inside, then take off the outer tin, pull off 70% of the 2 x 6 outer wall studs and push the  remainder and roof over to ground.  Figure easier to cut up the tin roof and scrap when on the ground. Has 3-4 layers of tar on it, so probably not saving.. Dont know what the rafters look like, but assume cheap 2 x 3 construction... maybe save the bottom cord... Wonder if 6 inch fiberglass bats in 7 ft sections would be a sell able item ? 

Looks like an all winter project. We keep a 1 yard dumpster at the farm so i will fill with drywall every month and have it dumped.. Will take several fills... may need to have them come every 2 weeks to get rid of the drywall.

In the end, the son will use the frame .. cut into two sections and make couple bridges over creek at his place.... will check capacity to hold UTV or small tractor.


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The Tin based Ibeams of a PreFab house are not strong enough to support pinpoint loads as Tires on machines.  Buddy of mine found that out some years back trying the SAME thing.  Best they are good for is Scrap Metal.  Load Capacity per linear foot was less than 200# UNLESS had Flooring placed atop that supported by Floor joists with a Rim Board strengthener.  Similar to Van Type Trailers that without the sidewalls cannot support their own flooring weight.
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YEA... i have not looked at the frame yet.. Will do that in the spring.  Will decide if need to double up, cut shorter , or just use as foot path bridge.

Son came up with a "mobile home mover" trailer 2 years ago... It was 70 ft long, two 12 inch I beams on each side.. They were only  1/8 inch material, but with  adequate floor and bracing they had good load capacity after i cut into two 35 ft bridges with some  angle iron cross braces...... I doubt this frame is anywhere near that construction... Time will tell.


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I don't know what it was made out of then, but I was told sometime back that drywall helps the soil.  Like lime or calcium.  You may be able to take it out in the field and disk it in!

The tin on the outside was aluminum a while back.  That was back in the 70s and 80s and probably prior to that.  I don't know what they used when yours was built, but it may be a nice little profit. 
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You might as well get a 40 yard dumpster and throw everything from the frame up into it and "hopefully" you have a backhoe to keep smashing the debris down to make it all fit Wink. There is no value (IMO) for any of the interior doors/insulation.
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I was considering getting a bigger dumpster for the drywall and tin roof... The outside "tin" walls might be aluminum.. I should have enough "tin" to do the sides of a 30 x 30 building after it is removed.. Figure that is worth my time.. Exterior walls are 2 x 6 - 7 ft tall... Should be about 100 of them total after teardown.. I already have 30- 2 x 3 studs from 3 different interior walls .... should end up with 100 by the time im done.... doors are real nice.. trying to sell for a couple bucks instead of having to burn or dumpster.
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Steve, save the drywall pile it outside next to your garden, after a couple rain storms, it will crumble, spread on your garden this fall, work it into the soil before the ground freezes.
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i have plowed drywall under before, good source of boron. really did thye crops good! the exterior is prolly aluminium, and is very thin...tears easy, but if clean can get good price as scrap. only good frames are from trailers made in the early 60's and on back, 50's had really good frames and many have made hay trailers out of them. if the roof has alot of tar, dig a big hole and burn it off if you don't put in dumpster. windows and doors make good yard sale items, and you may get something out of the insulation there too, always someone wanting to insulate a yard shed. local lumber yards here sell it by the bats too besides the whole packages. sell the axles unless you can find wheels to fit them, tire stores don't carry those type tires, they are an odd size just for the trailer house industry. some of them had hubs that could be changed to fit different wheels. have fun tearing off the floor too! there is good copper wire in them. i have scrapped several, worked for a trailer house sales place for a couple years. the stories i could tell!  
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Had 1 here. Outside was aluminum, windows were aluminum. Took it all off and sold it before the price of scrap dropped. This one had steel straps screwed at an angle to the outside of the wall studs for bracing. Everything stapled and glued together. Wiring went to the scrap too. I pried the roof off in 1 piece. I took the skid loader and rolled it up in a big roll. Again it went to the scrap yard. Plumbing was all plastic, it was tossed into the burning barrel. All interior panelling, cupboards, doors, insulation went into a bonfire. Storm door glass was tempered glass. I used it for a skylight in her stinking chicken house. It was about the only thing reusable on it. This had no sheetrock, all cheap paneling glued and stapled to the uprights. Ceiling was some sorta cardboard crap with a design printed on the bottom side. It was glued and stapled to the 2x2 joists.
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Tom, it's amazing how good the glue was back then LOLLOL ! And you also mentioned the magic word- STAPLES, and LOTS of them Wink !
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well i never considered putting the drywall into the corn field... being 70 ft long there is about 20 sheets on each of the front and back walls.. probably another 20 sheets on the interior and end walls , so equivalent of 60 sheets.... maybe just lay it out over an acre of ground !
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Doesn't the 3/8" sheetrock have a vinyl coating of "wallpaper" ??
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not vinyl, just paper on most of it........... i will check "SOME" of it it textured, but i think it is all paper.

studs were on 16 inch centers.. they put a drop of glue every foot or so on the stud, then STAPLE at the edges and put a thin wood trim strip over the joints...NO DRYWALL MUD... most of the staples stayed in the stud and the drywall just popped off... but i do need to check for and left over staples !!


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i looked on line and it says if you put gypsum on a field to use 15# per 10' x 10' area...   I broke the drywall into 1 x 2 ft pieces for removal... probably break up more and put 1 sheet per 10 x 10 area and let the rain and snow do its work ?

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Good luck Steve! My experience rather parallels Tom's, staples and glue! prying studs loose usually resulted in split studs, and a lot of time. roof, steel straps and gigantic spikes that, again resulted in split material. The fiberglass batting was breaking down and not fun to deal with. aluminum wiring, plastic plumbing, and worn out breaker box/breakers. Oh yes, and the flooring! fortunately, for me, the goal wasn't salvage, goal was to do a David Coppefield with it. The interior doors, and exterior doors actually had corrugated cardboard
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up here is COSTS you money to haul 'travel trailers' to the yard, if not totally gutted. Not any 'real' steel.
I agree 'new' drywall( cutoffs, no paint) are GREAT in the garden ! Broke tons of it into +-foot square size, tossed like frisbees all over garden in fall after plowing, let Mother Nature do her thing, come Spring, plow/till and all the veggies were happy !
Since her garden will be <10% the size next year, I won't need to do that anymore...
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Steve I have basically the same project.
I’ve tried to hire it done and only had way off the charts high bids.
Weve got the hard part done. All paneling, drywall, flooring and insulation are gone. What a mess.
The wire was copper. Gave it to my brother to add to his copper pile. All plumbing , windows and doors are gone. Now just a shell. I’ve started pulling screws to remove the aluminum siding. The roof is glued and gonna be a pain. Can’t wait til it’s gone.
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Thats what i ran into Thad.. Its 70 ft long and NOBODY wants to move it.. Couple guys wanted to BURN IN PLACE and then drag the steel trailer off... NO... So i volunteered to tear it down and throw in the dumpster little by little... As i go , i am trying to sell off a few things for pennies, or give away so i dont have to scrap... Porch was disassembled and remade to deer blind. 3 storm windows used in it.. Sold the breaker box and 10 elect plugs for $40. .. Someone said they will by 15 sheets of paneling for $30. .... Iim just trying to keep most of it out of the dumpster as i go. ... and your right, the roof and old rotted floor looks like the PAIN.
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Back in the 70's I built a gooseneck trailer using a fairly new at the time house trailer that had been blown over in the 140 MPH winds we had one winter.  I doubled the frame I beams and welded them every foot or so.  Used the axles and tires, at the time, 14.5" trailer wheels and tires were a dime a dozen so didn't have a problem with that.  I believe that it is now illegal to use trailer tires on none house trailers but either hubs or entire axles with normal bolt on rims aren't that expensive.  I helped a guy built a shed using the floor sections of a mobile home.  We cut the floor next to the joist and then bolted them together after they were set up on the power pole posts.  He used the trailer frame as support beams between the posts.  Covered the roof with metal roofing.  Maybe not as fast as building a standard pole barn but only cost him for the bolts and roofing.  He sold the axles and some other stuff out of it to nearly pay for all the stuff he had to buy.  Good thing I work cheap!
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  Hey Steve,,wishin you was closer,,I'd take them sheets of paneling off your hands in a heart beat. I've been looking for some paneling for the longest for a inside rebuild of the 5th wheel. NOBODY carries the 1/8" wood simulated paneling like was so popular back in the day. Some of the stuff I did find is,,,,,,,,$36 per sheeet!!! DANG,,I may go with 3/8" sheet rock as all I want to do is repair and sell,,,no more.
 There used to be a heck of a market for that paneling,,,can't figure what happened,,??
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I forgot to add, there was a guy advertised on the radio for a trailer house frame and tires. Since it had been sitting here 5 or 6 years, I gave it to him to haul off. He was starting a business taking down windmills and moving them all over the US. I don't know how that worked out. He had a new Duramax to pull it.
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DJ... maybe look around for 'doorskins'. HD used to sell them up here , maybe 1/8" veneer 36x80=-.
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I wonder if those panels were made illegal because they probably burn like oil soaked paper?
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  Hey Steve,,wishin you was closer,,I'd take them sheets of paneling off your hands in a heart beat. I've been looking for some paneling for the longest for a inside rebuild of the 5th wheel. NOBODY carries the 1/8" wood simulated paneling like was so popular back in the day. Some of the stuff I did find is,,,,,,,,$36 per sheeet!!! DANG,,I may go with 3/8" sheet rock as all I want to do is repair and sell,,,no more.
 There used to be a heck of a market for that paneling,,,can't figure what happened,,??

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This "paneling" is not the plywood construction type.. It is basically particle board with a hard skin and wood grain pattern on the front.. I would have kept the plywood type.. I put this on craigslist and might sell tomorrow... 15 sheets for $30...  Better than breaking it up and building a fire !! 

Also have a lead on selling 6 interior hollow doors with hinges and handles for $40.

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You may want to take the roof off before the whole thing collapses on you.  They build them from the bottom up.  You will find carpet or vinyl under walls.  Anyway, you need to get that weight off of the top before it collapses on you!
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The one I’m working on had a small gutter all the way around it. I took that off yesterday. What a pain. Sealants over all the screws. It had screws every 3 to 4 inches. I had r bags full of screws. The roof metal is folded down over the sides and was sandwiched between the wall and gutter. I plan to have the roof off and aluminum off the walls this weekend.
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Thad, did you gut the inside out ? 

OK, i read your post from a few days ago... Your doing about the same as i am.. Did you take down the interior studs or just the drywall ?  I am taking down all studs and will put a diagonal brace from floor to back wall every 20 ft to keep the building from falling over as i remove interior.


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I gutted interior walls from half of it.
The other half I left interior walls for structure. My wife was afraid it would collapse on her cat. All drywall is gone. It has tin diagonals length wise but I was afraid it would fall sideways. I also have a couple braces floor to wall in the open part. This thing is very flimsy.
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The roof metal is folded down over the sides and was sandwiched between the wall and gutter. I plan to have the roof off and aluminum off the walls this weekend.

Thad, if you come up with a good plan to remove the roof, tell me.. I know this one has a few layers of tar over it, so i probably cant find screw... Figured i would cut  into sections with skill saw and burn or dumpster ?  I had planned on stripping the wall tin, then tipping the roof over , on/in front of the trailer. 
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