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Topic: Tearing down a house trailer
Posted By: steve(ill)
Subject: Tearing down a house trailer
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 4:03pm
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SIL has an old 70 ft long trailer. Cant find anyone that wants to buy / haul it off site so i decided to tear down in place, sell as i go, and keep the frame for future use.

Took off the  7 x 8 porch of plywood and 2x4... built a deer blind 4 x 6 ft for son.. Sold the electrical breaker box , couple dozen electrical plugs and light switches.  Have 6 interior doors, stove, storm windows, etc all to go soon.  

Outside walls are 2 x 6 !!  Has tin on the outside, 6 inch fiberglass bats, then 3/8 drywall on inside.  interior walls are 2 x 3 with 3/8 drywall on them... Tearing off the drywall and taking down inside walls and saving the 2 x 3.. Drywall goes in the dumpster.. When everything is cleaned out on the inside, then take off the outer tin, pull off 70% of the 2 x 6 outer wall studs and push the  remainder and roof over to ground.  Figure easier to cut up the tin roof and scrap when on the ground. Has 3-4 layers of tar on it, so probably not saving.. Dont know what the rafters look like, but assume cheap 2 x 3 construction... maybe save the bottom cord... Wonder if 6 inch fiberglass bats in 7 ft sections would be a sell able item ? 

Looks like an all winter project. We keep a 1 yard dumpster at the farm so i will fill with drywall every month and have it dumped.. Will take several fills... may need to have them come every 2 weeks to get rid of the drywall.

In the end, the son will use the frame .. cut into two sections and make couple bridges over creek at his place.... will check capacity to hold UTV or small tractor.


Edited by steve(ill) - 2 minutes ago at 4:00pm


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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 4:18pm
The Tin based Ibeams of a PreFab house are not strong enough to support pinpoint loads as Tires on machines.  Buddy of mine found that out some years back trying the SAME thing.  Best they are good for is Scrap Metal.  Load Capacity per linear foot was less than 200# UNLESS had Flooring placed atop that supported by Floor joists with a Rim Board strengthener.  Similar to Van Type Trailers that without the sidewalls cannot support their own flooring weight.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 4:43pm
YEA... i have not looked at the frame yet.. Will do that in the spring.  Will decide if need to double up, cut shorter , or just use as foot path bridge.

Son came up with a "mobile home mover" trailer 2 years ago... It was 70 ft long, two 12 inch I beams on each side.. They were only  1/8 inch material, but with  adequate floor and bracing they had good load capacity after i cut into two 35 ft bridges with some  angle iron cross braces...... I doubt this frame is anywhere near that construction... Time will tell.


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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 5:01pm
I don't know what it was made out of then, but I was told sometime back that drywall helps the soil.  Like lime or calcium.  You may be able to take it out in the field and disk it in!

The tin on the outside was aluminum a while back.  That was back in the 70s and 80s and probably prior to that.  I don't know what they used when yours was built, but it may be a nice little profit. 


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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 5:09pm
You might as well get a 40 yard dumpster and throw everything from the frame up into it and "hopefully" you have a backhoe to keep smashing the debris down to make it all fit Wink. There is no value (IMO) for any of the interior doors/insulation.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 5:38pm
I was considering getting a bigger dumpster for the drywall and tin roof... The outside "tin" walls might be aluminum.. I should have enough "tin" to do the sides of a 30 x 30 building after it is removed.. Figure that is worth my time.. Exterior walls are 2 x 6 - 7 ft tall... Should be about 100 of them total after teardown.. I already have 30- 2 x 3 studs from 3 different interior walls .... should end up with 100 by the time im done.... doors are real nice.. trying to sell for a couple bucks instead of having to burn or dumpster.

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Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 7:25pm
Steve, save the drywall pile it outside next to your garden, after a couple rain storms, it will crumble, spread on your garden this fall, work it into the soil before the ground freezes.

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 7:40pm
i have plowed drywall under before, good source of boron. really did thye crops good! the exterior is prolly aluminium, and is very thin...tears easy, but if clean can get good price as scrap. only good frames are from trailers made in the early 60's and on back, 50's had really good frames and many have made hay trailers out of them. if the roof has alot of tar, dig a big hole and burn it off if you don't put in dumpster. windows and doors make good yard sale items, and you may get something out of the insulation there too, always someone wanting to insulate a yard shed. local lumber yards here sell it by the bats too besides the whole packages. sell the axles unless you can find wheels to fit them, tire stores don't carry those type tires, they are an odd size just for the trailer house industry. some of them had hubs that could be changed to fit different wheels. have fun tearing off the floor too! there is good copper wire in them. i have scrapped several, worked for a trailer house sales place for a couple years. the stories i could tell!  


Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 8:13pm
Had 1 here. Outside was aluminum, windows were aluminum. Took it all off and sold it before the price of scrap dropped. This one had steel straps screwed at an angle to the outside of the wall studs for bracing. Everything stapled and glued together. Wiring went to the scrap too. I pried the roof off in 1 piece. I took the skid loader and rolled it up in a big roll. Again it went to the scrap yard. Plumbing was all plastic, it was tossed into the burning barrel. All interior panelling, cupboards, doors, insulation went into a bonfire. Storm door glass was tempered glass. I used it for a skylight in her stinking chicken house. It was about the only thing reusable on it. This had no sheetrock, all cheap paneling glued and stapled to the uprights. Ceiling was some sorta cardboard crap with a design printed on the bottom side. It was glued and stapled to the 2x2 joists.


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 8:20pm
Tom, it's amazing how good the glue was back then LOLLOL ! And you also mentioned the magic word- STAPLES, and LOTS of them Wink !


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 8:39pm
well i never considered putting the drywall into the corn field... being 70 ft long there is about 20 sheets on each of the front and back walls.. probably another 20 sheets on the interior and end walls , so equivalent of 60 sheets.... maybe just lay it out over an acre of ground !

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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 8:48pm
Doesn't the 3/8" sheetrock have a vinyl coating of "wallpaper" ??


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 8:53pm
not vinyl, just paper on most of it........... i will check "SOME" of it it textured, but i think it is all paper.

studs were on 16 inch centers.. they put a drop of glue every foot or so on the stud, then STAPLE at the edges and put a thin wood trim strip over the joints...NO DRYWALL MUD... most of the staples stayed in the stud and the drywall just popped off... but i do need to check for and left over staples !!


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 8:59pm
i looked on line and it says if you put gypsum on a field to use 15# per 10' x 10' area...   I broke the drywall into 1 x 2 ft pieces for removal... probably break up more and put 1 sheet per 10 x 10 area and let the rain and snow do its work ?

THANKS for the idea !


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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 10:18pm
Good luck Steve! My experience rather parallels Tom's, staples and glue! prying studs loose usually resulted in split studs, and a lot of time. roof, steel straps and gigantic spikes that, again resulted in split material. The fiberglass batting was breaking down and not fun to deal with. aluminum wiring, plastic plumbing, and worn out breaker box/breakers. Oh yes, and the flooring! fortunately, for me, the goal wasn't salvage, goal was to do a David Coppefield with it. The interior doors, and exterior doors actually had corrugated cardboard
as a core!


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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 5:47am
up here is COSTS you money to haul 'travel trailers' to the yard, if not totally gutted. Not any 'real' steel.
I agree 'new' drywall( cutoffs, no paint) are GREAT in the garden ! Broke tons of it into +-foot square size, tossed like frisbees all over garden in fall after plowing, let Mother Nature do her thing, come Spring, plow/till and all the veggies were happy !
Since her garden will be <10% the size next year, I won't need to do that anymore...


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 8:17am
Steve I have basically the same project.
I’ve tried to hire it done and only had way off the charts high bids.
Weve got the hard part done. All paneling, drywall, flooring and insulation are gone. What a mess.
The wire was copper. Gave it to my brother to add to his copper pile. All plumbing , windows and doors are gone. Now just a shell. I’ve started pulling screws to remove the aluminum siding. The roof is glued and gonna be a pain. Can’t wait til it’s gone.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 8:32am
Thats what i ran into Thad.. Its 70 ft long and NOBODY wants to move it.. Couple guys wanted to BURN IN PLACE and then drag the steel trailer off... NO... So i volunteered to tear it down and throw in the dumpster little by little... As i go , i am trying to sell off a few things for pennies, or give away so i dont have to scrap... Porch was disassembled and remade to deer blind. 3 storm windows used in it.. Sold the breaker box and 10 elect plugs for $40. .. Someone said they will by 15 sheets of paneling for $30. .... Iim just trying to keep most of it out of the dumpster as i go. ... and your right, the roof and old rotted floor looks like the PAIN.

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Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 11:27am
Back in the 70's I built a gooseneck trailer using a fairly new at the time house trailer that had been blown over in the 140 MPH winds we had one winter.  I doubled the frame I beams and welded them every foot or so.  Used the axles and tires, at the time, 14.5" trailer wheels and tires were a dime a dozen so didn't have a problem with that.  I believe that it is now illegal to use trailer tires on none house trailers but either hubs or entire axles with normal bolt on rims aren't that expensive.  I helped a guy built a shed using the floor sections of a mobile home.  We cut the floor next to the joist and then bolted them together after they were set up on the power pole posts.  He used the trailer frame as support beams between the posts.  Covered the roof with metal roofing.  Maybe not as fast as building a standard pole barn but only cost him for the bolts and roofing.  He sold the axles and some other stuff out of it to nearly pay for all the stuff he had to buy.  Good thing I work cheap!


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 12:22pm

  Hey Steve,,wishin you was closer,,I'd take them sheets of paneling off your hands in a heart beat. I've been looking for some paneling for the longest for a inside rebuild of the 5th wheel. NOBODY carries the 1/8" wood simulated paneling like was so popular back in the day. Some of the stuff I did find is,,,,,,,,$36 per sheeet!!! DANG,,I may go with 3/8" sheet rock as all I want to do is repair and sell,,,no more.
 There used to be a heck of a market for that paneling,,,can't figure what happened,,??


Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 6:21pm
I forgot to add, there was a guy advertised on the radio for a trailer house frame and tires. Since it had been sitting here 5 or 6 years, I gave it to him to haul off. He was starting a business taking down windmills and moving them all over the US. I don't know how that worked out. He had a new Duramax to pull it.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 6:46pm
DJ... maybe look around for 'doorskins'. HD used to sell them up here , maybe 1/8" veneer 36x80=-.


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Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 7:24pm
I wonder if those panels were made illegal because they probably burn like oil soaked paper?


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by desertjoe desertjoe wrote:


  Hey Steve,,wishin you was closer,,I'd take them sheets of paneling off your hands in a heart beat. I've been looking for some paneling for the longest for a inside rebuild of the 5th wheel. NOBODY carries the 1/8" wood simulated paneling like was so popular back in the day. Some of the stuff I did find is,,,,,,,,$36 per sheeet!!! DANG,,I may go with 3/8" sheet rock as all I want to do is repair and sell,,,no more.
 There used to be a heck of a market for that paneling,,,can't figure what happened,,??

Luan (underlayment) and paint


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 8:49pm
This "paneling" is not the plywood construction type.. It is basically particle board with a hard skin and wood grain pattern on the front.. I would have kept the plywood type.. I put this on craigslist and might sell tomorrow... 15 sheets for $30...  Better than breaking it up and building a fire !! 

Also have a lead on selling 6 interior hollow doors with hinges and handles for $40.

Im not trying to get rich, just trying to get rid of stuff without burning or dumpster !


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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 12:39am
You may want to take the roof off before the whole thing collapses on you.  They build them from the bottom up.  You will find carpet or vinyl under walls.  Anyway, you need to get that weight off of the top before it collapses on you!


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 5:55am
The one I’m working on had a small gutter all the way around it. I took that off yesterday. What a pain. Sealants over all the screws. It had screws every 3 to 4 inches. I had r bags full of screws. The roof metal is folded down over the sides and was sandwiched between the wall and gutter. I plan to have the roof off and aluminum off the walls this weekend.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 9:03am
Thad, did you gut the inside out ? 

OK, i read your post from a few days ago... Your doing about the same as i am.. Did you take down the interior studs or just the drywall ?  I am taking down all studs and will put a diagonal brace from floor to back wall every 20 ft to keep the building from falling over as i remove interior.


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 10:11am
I gutted interior walls from half of it.
The other half I left interior walls for structure. My wife was afraid it would collapse on her cat. All drywall is gone. It has tin diagonals length wise but I was afraid it would fall sideways. I also have a couple braces floor to wall in the open part. This thing is very flimsy.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 4:37pm
The roof metal is folded down over the sides and was sandwiched between the wall and gutter. I plan to have the roof off and aluminum off the walls this weekend.

Thad, if you come up with a good plan to remove the roof, tell me.. I know this one has a few layers of tar over it, so i probably cant find screw... Figured i would cut  into sections with skill saw and burn or dumpster ?  I had planned on stripping the wall tin, then tipping the roof over , on/in front of the trailer. 


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 4:39pm
Anyone ever tried to stand INSIDE the trailer and push up and the tin between the rafters and get it off ?? ..... (after all the ceiling and insulation was gone.)

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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 5:55pm
Easy way to remove the roof after gutting, would be to crash an old junker car or truck through it!  Be sure to make a video of it to put on youtube, so you can make $, and we can watch!Wink

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 6:40pm
I will keep that in mind Dave !!!!  I was thinking about taking the tin walls off, taking out every other stud or more,  then using the tractor to PULL the walls and roof down on top of the floor... BUT, YOUR IDEA would make for a better youtube ! Wink

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Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2020 at 12:22am
Having removed more than a few from parks I've owned is just let some scrappers strip what ever they can get off and then get a 40 yard dumpster delivered. Have it ripped down with a good sized backhoe and write the check(s).


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2020 at 12:45am
$20,000. insurance and a BBQ grill....uh...mishap?


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2020 at 9:37am
BUTT, BUTT, BUTT... can i insure a $29. Trailer for $20K ??? Wink

Right now its a 1 bedroom, 1 bath, 1/2 kitchen with no electrical !! and a 45 ft long EMPTY STORAGE ROOM ! 

My SCRAPPER (me) so far has made $100. this week selling the "good stuff" ! Big smile


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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2020 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

BUTT, BUTT, BUTT... can i insure a $29. Trailer for $20K ??? Wink

Right now its a 1 bedroom, 1 bath, 1/2 kitchen with no electrical !! and a 45 ft long EMPTY STORAGE ROOM ! 

My SCRAPPER (me) so far has made $100. this week selling the "good stuff" ! Big smile
How many hours did it take you to "make" your $100 ??


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2020 at 5:28pm
i was given a 50's trailer house years ago, was gonna make a hay trailer out of it, the PO had just replaced the floor and furnace in it, took it home, put it out in the pasture under some trees (so prying eyes ((county)) couldn't see it), and made it into a party place! served us well for many years, then some neighbor kids found it (trespassing) and broke out the windows and torn things up inside. i found their 4 wheelers nearby on my field road (that's how i knew someone was out there). they scrambled when i yelled at them. but....the next day they was out running our field roads again, i came across their 4 wheelers with no one on/around them. you know what the rear tire of a tractor (7010) does to a 4 wheeler? LOL..it ain't purdy! never had anymore problems with them again! we still go down there and consume sometimes, i either gotta fix what they broke up or scrap it. not sure which i'll do yet.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2020 at 5:45pm
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

i was given a 50's trailer house years ago, was gonna make a hay trailer out of it, the PO had just replaced the floor and furnace in it, took it home, put it out in the pasture under some trees (so prying eyes ((county)) couldn't see it), and made it into a party place! served us well for many years, then some neighbor kids found it (trespassing) and broke out the windows and torn things up inside. i found their 4 wheelers nearby on my field road (that's how i knew someone was out there). they scrambled when i yelled at them. but....the next day they was out running our field roads again, i came across their 4 wheelers with no one on/around them. you know what the rear tire of a tractor (7010) does to a 4 wheeler? LOL..it ain't purdy! never had anymore problems with them again! we still go down there and consume sometimes, i either gotta fix what they broke up or scrap it. not sure which i'll do yet.

Reminds me of my grandfather, found a go-cart in the field, outta gas.  He was discing the field.  Ever see what a D-19, pulling a 14' Kewaunee disc harrow can do to a go-cart?

Folded it up pretty good, with lotsa sharp edges!Wink


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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

BUTT, BUTT, BUTT... can i insure a $29. Trailer for $20K ??? Wink

Right now its a 1 bedroom, 1 bath, 1/2 kitchen with no electrical !! and a 45 ft long EMPTY STORAGE ROOM ! 

My SCRAPPER (me) so far has made $100. this week selling the "good stuff" ! Big smile
How many hours did it take you to "make" your $100 ??

 Ouch  Your looking from the opposite end of the dumpster.  Confused Not the biggest items to haul off but it cost money to get it into the landfill. It was a waste not want not Big smile, doing something nice for the person wanting it.LOL He is building his karma account up. Wink


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 5:26pm
I have been cutting the grass, working on the truck, changing oil in the tractors, cutting down dead trees, maintaining the county roadsides for 40 years... Nobody ever gave me a PENNY..... Dont know what you get paid to cut your own grass ??

Dumpster is $500 rent.. NOPE... I have PAID someone to do my work less than 5 times in the past 50 years. Not about to start now...

Got an empty shell with a bathroom on one end right now.  Plenty of goodies to sell, and a few to keep.. Some will give away. Had a large bon fire this am for the couch and a bunch of the wood trim !!

Better than setting around drinking beer all day !! Wink


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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 6:59pm
Fixing to haul another load to scrapper tomorrow, should have around 500-100lbs of scrap tins, so maybe $40 there, but had and stripped out around ten pounds of Copper left overs and cutaways(#1), have about twenty pounds of scrap brass(#3 copper) and close to fifty pounds misc aluminum(NOT Cans so lower end of $per pound) so should make a little cash for fuel cost and my time not throwing the crap in a trash can.

Still have numbers seven and eight 40 gallon trash bags going out from shop Wednesday.  JUST Trash in those, will burn all the paper and wood scraps.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 4:15am
fun....ain't it?


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 5:55am
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

I have been cutting the grass, working on the truck, changing oil in the tractors, cutting down dead trees, maintaining the county roadsides for 40 years... Nobody ever gave me a PENNY..... Dont know what you get paid to cut your own grass ??

Dumpster is $500 rent.. NOPE... I have PAID someone to do my work less than 5 times in the past 50 years. Not about to start now...

Got an empty shell with a bathroom on one end right now.  Plenty of goodies to sell, and a few to keep.. Some will give away. Had a large bon fire this am for the couch and a bunch of the wood trim !!

Better than setting around drinking beer all day !! Wink

Exactly the same for me.
I do most everything I need done. Only in the past few years ever paid a mechanic. I did hire an Electricial on our remodel but I still pulled most wire and did most labor. Same on the plumbing.
I have dropped very few screws n nails on this year down. When I do I get down and retrieve it right then. Doing a fairly neat job of this.
I haven’t made a dime but I haven’t spent one either. Maybe the siding frame and axles will bring a little.
Didn’t get the roof off but it’s lose all the way around. Have a couple exhaust vents to cut out from furnace and range. Rained yesterday so I spent the afternoon loading ammo.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 9:05am
well............ i SAID i made $100. off sales.. Actually that went back to Sis In Law.. Her trailer... I did take the front porch and make two deer blinds for the Son and Bro in Law.. He did give me a case of beer... So i DID EARN SOMETHING !! Wink

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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 9:58am

 Well,,I'm now lookin forward to readin both of youse guys escapades on demolition of those trailers,,,,Clap,,NOT,,,, that I'm ever gonna go into that hobby,,mind you,,, but interestin readin how you both kinda arrive at similar solutions at same time,,,,,,are ya'll kin or,,,????ClapClap


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 1:33pm
im afraid all my kin were Yankies...  Indiana / MIchigan / Southern Canada ........ im guessing Thad had different. .... butt, butt... i think were of the same mind now ! 

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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

im afraid all my kin were Yankies...  Indiana / MIchigan / Southern Canada ........ im guessing Thad had different. .... butt, butt... i think were of the same mind now ! 

Oh heck only half of mine were yankees. Michigan Minnesota and Canada. The other half were from South Carolina


Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 6:13pm
Tore down a 70 footer one time---- with this! lol!---- frame and all -- one neat ball and shoved it on a low-boy and he took it somewhere and got rid of it!! I didnt ask--didnt want to know!


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 4:05pm
Took out furnace, water heater and air conditioner unit. Set in the driveway. Try to GIVE to someone to haul to the scrap yard..

Almost done with interior wall removal.  Drywall is broken up and stacked in 8 piles. Cleaned up the 2 x 3 and 2 x 4 studs for "repurpose".. Have about 100 total.. 60 in the truck.




Left 6 ft section of two interior walls and added diagonal brace for support. Still have frig and stove setting in the way. Going to put things toward the center of room and start removal of drywall on exterior walls by Christmas.... Have drywall stacked in 8 piles waist high. Waiting for ground to freeze to haul out to corn field and spread.








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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2020 at 3:48pm
Yea, i need to look at the frame a little closer after i get the roof and walls down.. Im sure i can cut / weld and come up with a couple 20 ft walk bridges minimal... This thing is probably 1970 vintage so i dont know how strong it is... It is 70 ft long.

Loading per foot really depends on what the SPAN is... If  your saying 200# per foot and i can spread the load out over 5 feet, then that is 1000# ...... Could get a 4 wheeler over that............ again, depends on the span  20 ft is a lot easier than 40 ft or 70 ft.


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 3:56pm
Tore out all drywall off outside walls ( inside house).. Didnt take more than 4 hours.. I was expecting a lot more..  Loaded up the truck bed twice ( 5' x 6' x 2' ) and hauled out to the small Deer Plot Corn field... Lot easier than the plowed farm field... I just threw it in to an area 20 x 20 .... will let the rain and snow tear it up, then spread with the Bobcat in the spring and disc in..  Easier than i thought !!....

Now what to do with the ceiling... 3/8 drywall with 6 inches blown in insulation above that. Should make a real mess... Read  "on line" not to put that on the field as it has fire retard chemicals in it...  Might take a small portion tomorrow and see if it will BURN ?? in a hot fire.    

Sold off most of the interior sink, toilet, hot air grates, electrical box, plugs, gas line for a few dollars just to keep it out of the dumpster.. Burning the trim , shelves, drawer to keep them out of the dumpster.. Only the drape rods, nails hardware goes into dumpster....

Sold 500 gallon propane tank for $500. in 24 hours ! .... trying to sell wall fiberglass insulation now in 7 ft batts. 


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 5:30pm
Good job Steve. I didn’t remove the roof this weekend. We were gone cept when the Razorbacks were playing. Hope to have it off this weekend.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 5:37pm
gee, and I passed on a free 15' tandem 'fryshack' trailer today....
springs were shot, dexter hubs, NO brakes,pintle hitch,3 bald flat tires
would have made a nice storage shed or 'tiny' house though.....
but.. no where to park it here....
there was also a free 'seacan'...
oh well...


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 6:00pm
JAY !!!  talk to your NEIGHBOR... I hear SHE has a little extra room !  Maybe put the seacan there !! Wink

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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 7:02pm
Neighbor got a free 16x60 trailer house... when it was moved the first time, it had 3 axels under it and then were taken off.  So the fellow gave it to the neighbor. They put two axels under it, all they had, and hooked on to it with a 4wheel drive tractor and were booging down the road when one rim pealed off. then another tire blew, then anoterrim an tire vame off and got in front of rear axel and that ripped off and the last tire blew and cutting the highway up and axel went into the blacktop and... there they sat on the road. hitch had started to tear off. they tried to back it up and they bent more stuff up. finslly they got a payloader to push the trailerhouse off the road. they called the county sheriff dept. and said that it was against the law to move mobile homes with farm tractors now, gotta be a licensed mover now.  But the sheriff's dept wasn't going to fine them this time sinceit is new law... Highway deptartmen wasn't as kind, they figured 10,000 for repair of road damage...
 After using pay loader, the frame was all buckled and damaged and hitch needed to be welded back on. So it was junk.  They looked for somebody to take care of it so, they found a fellow that would demo it for 3000... he got two big dumpsters in and used a track hoe and bobcat and crushed that whole building down and stuffed into those two dumpsters.  he tore the frame out and cut it up an stuffed that in his dump truck box. In 5 hours he disposed of the mobile home.  He said the thing should have had 4 axels under it, cuzz there was a roof on top of the old roof made of 2x4's, plywood and shingles.  The roof would have made for a good woodshed or some machinery if set up on poles.
 Well that was an expesive free tailer...Confused.



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Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2020 at 10:21am
I always thought the best thing for tearin' down an old trailer was a tornado!!!  Tho' maybe they only tear down the ones bein' lived in!Wink


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:07pm
Tearing down is the EASY Part... CLEANUP is the problem... Thumbs Up

Took the last load of wall drywall to the Deer Corn Field today. ... Cleaned up  on one end of the trailer and then attacked the ceiling.. Made something like a crow bar with a longer leg.. stick thru the dry walll and PULL DOWN... Did an area 14 ft wide and 10 ft long ( rafters on 2 ft centers... Got a plastic 40 gallon trash can and line with a 42 gallon plastic bag... shovel the  "blown in" insulation into the bag with a snow shovel... tie off and remove.. Pack it good and i get about 14' x 4 ' of insulation in one bag... will try to sell for $2 bag or give away......... OH... and its shredded fiber glass, not  paper.

About a week and will have the insulation and ceiling drywall all off... More drywall to dispose of !! ........ got a couple guys that are looking at the wall and ceiling insulation to do their garage... HOPE !


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 6:12am
I cut the roof in half and cut 3 big exhaust boots out. Pulled the roof off the front half only to discover it’s 2 layers thick. On the ground I use a 4.4” grinder with a diamond blade to cut the roof in to 3’x612’ strips and stacked them on the trailer. Got the lower layer pulled loose and ready to remove. The other half is flat and just single layer.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 8:34am
So the roof is only attached around the  edges at the top of the wall ?  Nothing on top except the penetrations ?   YEA.. that will help... I was thinking screws all over the top, but i have not been up there for several years.. Dont remember screw heads.

I am 30% into pulling down the ceiling drywall and bagging up the blown in fiberglass insulation above it........ wondering how long the weather will cooperate.


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 9:10am
You are correct Steve. The roof is folded over the edges and screwed in to the side of the top plate over the siding as well. Only screws in the trusses are near a roof boot for exhaust or plumbing vent. I took a saws all and cut around the boots from below. After seeing what those trusses are I’m not getting on the roof.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 12:33pm
YEA... tearing off the ceiling drywall and looking up... I see rafters that are WAY on the small side of a  2 x 2 ... This has a vaulted ceiling so the CENTER of the rafter might be 8 inches tall.. I dont see how it holds up any weight !

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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 12:43pm
You should have titled this "Un-Shed Talk" and posted pictures as you progressed.


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2020 at 4:19pm
Well... got all the ceiling drywall down and the blown in fiberglass insulation above it was all on the floor... Broke up ceiling into 2 x 2 pieces and stacked for later disposal.. Bought 42 gallon trash bags and set one in a trash can and snow shovel the insulation into the bag.. Packed it tight... tie ... dump it out.. new bag... repeat... ended up with 20 bags full.. Sold all the ceiling insulation for $40. and all the wall insulation for $50... this is what it looks like now.  The red circle shows two stub walls i left ( with a diagonal brace) to hold the  house from flexing as i go further.


Closeup of brace wall below... one 20 ft from each end... 70 ft trailer.


Closeup of roof rafters made of 2 x 2... Vaulted ceiling... rafter about 12 inches tall at center. On 24 inch centers.... 14 ft span !!


Wall studs are 2 x 6. Plan to save all of them and the outside tin ( 3 ft wide sections). I was going to strip the roof, then windows off walls, then take tin off walls, then tip over the building and disassemble the studs and rafters..

Plan "B" is to be not so committed..  THAD said to cut the roof into 4 ft widths between the rafters, take out screws along the wall, and slide off a SECTION 4 x 14 ft onto the ground.  My plan is to cut 4 sections 4 ft wide from the INSIDE and slide off to open a section 16 ft  long starting at the back wall..then take off the tin on the end wall. Then cut out 4-5 rafters, cut top plate and tip the END wall over onto the floor... Knock off the studs and keep, burn the top and bottom plate and rafters... 

Then cut backwall at window, remove the wall tin and tip 10 ft of wall onto the floor and disassemble.. etc.... Once i have 16- 20 ft GONE i will see what the weather is like and do  another 20 ft of front or rear wall as time permits..

This allows me to keep the opposite end of the trailer , under roof and store some of the material i have removed or trying to sell.. And if it snows or rains, i am not 100% committed !!.



Look from the outside... #1 will come down first.. End wall, then front and back.





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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 5:35am
Between weather and life I got sidetracked from the tear down. I got back to it. I got half of it down to the floor yesterday. Including one section that had a raised floor.
All the roof is off.
One more good weekend it should be down to the floor.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 8:45am
I got 30 ft of the 70 ft trailer torn down to the frame.. Stopped demo for the winter. Son wants a couple portable duck blinds so i cut the exposed frame off and took to the shop for a winter project.








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