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hunter321
Silver Level Joined: 11 Jan 2021 Location: 52320 Points: 475 |
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Can you post a picture of the bell housing for a narrow front.
Could I support the front end with a giant cable spool underneath it. I am splitting the tractor outside with no concrete and it will be held together by 4 1'5" pieces of 3/4 in all thread so it doesn't split to far. I have 2 farm hi lift jacks and a floor jack. Do I put the spool or jack under the transmission clutch housing. |
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SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8035 |
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Bell housing is the casting bolted to rear of engine which houses the foot clutch. If a wide front you can wedge 2X4's between axle and frame rails to keep vertical stability and place a jack under bell housing. Block front tires each side to keep it from moving. A narrow front is not stable and is top heavy. Need a splitting stand or "A" frame attatched to frame rails hanging from a hoist.. Once front half is well supported you put a floor jack under drawbar next to snap coupler bell and roll back half away from front half. If you don't have a concrete floor to work on you will likely have a big failure.
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hunter321
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I almost forgot to ask, what is the bell housing. The instructions say I need to jack up the tractor under the bell housing. Also is there anywhere else that I need to support before rolling the tractor apart
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hunter321
Silver Level Joined: 11 Jan 2021 Location: 52320 Points: 475 |
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Do you guys have any advice on how to bend the snap ring into the correct shape on the hand clutch once I get it out of the tractor so it fits perfectly so I don't need to weld it in place
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hunter321
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So don't weld it into place
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MadCow
Bronze Level Joined: 27 Aug 2023 Location: South Dakota Points: 103 |
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When someone inevitably goes wrong, do you want to be the one that has to fix it after being welded into place? |
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hunter321
Silver Level Joined: 11 Jan 2021 Location: 52320 Points: 475 |
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Is welding the snap ring in place a good idea
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hunter321
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I just got it ordered along with a shift tower gasket |
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SteveM C/IL
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yes it is.... $5.52 at my dealer. any AGCO dealer can order it no matter their brand
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hunter321
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hunter321
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I plan on using hi lift jacks to support it.
Thanks for the info |
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WF owner
Orange Level Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4429 |
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Make sure to put some blocks between the front axle and the frame if you don't have something holding the frame from tipping.
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hunter321
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https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/how-to-change-a-wd-hand-cluth_topic81694.html I am following this set of instructions to split the tractor |
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hunter321
Silver Level Joined: 11 Jan 2021 Location: 52320 Points: 475 |
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Ok.
I am making great progress on splitting the tractor, tomorrow I am going to get 3/4 in all thread to support the back end of the tractor and I'm going to try to split it tomorrow and get the clutch out. Thanks for all your help. I do need to find what gaskets to get and is it a good idea to weld the snap ring in place. Also my transmission fluid had water in it. |
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mdm1
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Onalaska, WI Points: 2599 |
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Hunter I can't help with the clutch but I sense some frustration. These guys are trying to help with the info you have given them. Always tell what the whole problem is, what you (or someone else) has done, parts found and the results. Most problems with these tractors have been dealt with before. Also pics are super helpful to all. Always tell if you're making progress or not. Shows you appreciate the help. You gotta love these old machines or why the h#ll would you have one. Good luck!
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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hunter321
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I'm splitting it right behind the hand clutch. What gaskets do I need
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hunter321
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I'm working on splitting the tractor my own way
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hunter321
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Yes I do but the snap ring is not in the right shape
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19598 |
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I hope you have the hand clutch lever locked fully to the rear. This exposes the snap ring groove so you can actually install the wire snap ring.
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hunter321
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I think Im just going to give up on have a working hand clutch. No matter what I do I can't get the ring over the shaft and have it be the right shape to fit in the grove. The only way I have left is to split the tractor and I don't have anything to do that and don't have money to get anything
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hunter321
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I'll try my idea first and if it doesn't work I will try to get the pliers
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DrAllis
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Well then, you've got some choices to make. You want to work on this tractor?? it takes tools. You don't have what it takes, buy the tool that does the job or figure out another way.
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hunter321
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I don't have any snap ring pliers like that
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DrAllis
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Flat blade snap ring pliers that OPENS wide enough would beat splitting the tractor.
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hunter321
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instead of trying to get the ring on by pushing it straight down i am going to try to carefully twist it open and push it on. is this a good idea. i can use all the ideas i can get before having to split the tractor as a last resort
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hunter321
Silver Level Joined: 11 Jan 2021 Location: 52320 Points: 475 |
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i did get it back to the right shape
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hunter321
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what kind of snap ring pliers work on that kind of snap ring and size
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Ed (Ont)
Orange Level Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: New Lowell, Ont Points: 1224 |
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If the ring is not too bad you can save it. Flatten it on vice or anvil with hammer. Compress it a bit to get to the size you want and try again. To get it in place use snap ring pliers unless you do not have space to do that.
Edited by Ed (Ont) - 03 May 2024 at 10:34am |
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hunter321
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I'm going to try a different way to get the ring on
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hunter321
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I got the ring on the shaft but it was to bent out of shape to stay In place
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