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The pistons have a bowl top. One cup of oil maybe doesn't quite fill the bowl, so you need another cup to flood the rings/sleeves.
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Progress updates:

This is starting to remind me of my first date with a lewd woman. Curiosity running wild as to what I'm likely to discover next.

Hour meter is showing something like 5200 hours. No clue if the tach is working or original.

Oil plug is out. Black as midnight but at least all oil. No water.

1 cup ATF in each cylinder.

Plugs a bit black for my taste. Two blacker than the others.

With plugs out, AFT in, and my curiosity getting the better of me, I rocked her a bit in 4th gear and fan blade twitched about 1/4". That was good enough for today.

Air filter pulled and looked newer than new. Air breather cap and stack tube full to the gills with mud dauber nests. Shop vac to the rescue. (Secondary benefit to this is I'm on my way to gaining 1/2 acre of accretion dirt from all the mud dauber nests).

Battery pulled and first real clue as to how long she may have been sitting. Battery was marked Sep - 7. Too old to be 2017 and not old enough to be 1997, so that leaves 2007 - 2010 as to about when she was running last. So maybe 10 years vs. 15? Battery box has got the cancer, so has a little life left, but not much. I'd put a new on one if I could find one. Battery was much smaller than the box it was sitting on and in true "make due" fashion, was held down with a tarp strap.

Aft of the engine dip stick, found two more dip sticks. Both had clean....bordering on new.....oil in them, although the one under the seat was barely showing anything on the dip stick, and I remember there was some dark dirt below that area where she had been parked. May have a slow leak.

Gas tank smells as bad as you would expect it to from ancient gas, but no rust. Carb is froze up solid. Time for that to come off for a cleaning / rebuild / kit job. Right now, that is looking like my biggest obstacle to a running engine.

Too much fun!


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I suspected the rod may have been for a cultivator. There is a forward projecting bracket mounted to the top of the left side 3 point link. We had something similar on a JD 620, which carried a front mounted cultivator. Except that one used two push/pull rods....one on each side, and they were more like 1.5" pipes. But if this one was used to lift in a pulling motion vs. a push, a single solid rod may have worked.

I was also wondering what those brackets would have been used for and a front mounted cultivator was the only thing I could think of.

My first "car".....was a JD B tractor. I got started on it when I was about 10 or 11. At the time, my interest was in the fact it had an engine and didn't need to be peddled like my bicycle did. It also had a 2 row cultivator and I tried to talk my dad into letting me put it on and use it. He refused, insisting that if I was interested in running a cultivator, I'd get more done with the 4 row, and the 620 had power steering and the B didn't. My guess now is he simply wanted to get out of all the work it would take to mount it up, knowing the glamor of that would wear off in about 10 minutes once I tried to steer the old B by hand. (Known of then as Armstrong Power Steering) Especially with the weight of the cultivator on it.

The D15 was probably big enough to have handled a 4 row cultivator too.
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Modirt, congrats on your find you'll love the D-15. I see you've the mounting brackets for a cultivator and I believe the rod is part of the cultivator also. Have fun with the old girl.  
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I’m a firm believer in Seafoam in the gas tank and the crankcase. Since it has set for years, I would do as others have said, pull the plugs and add some ATF or even better spray Kroil in each cylinder and let it set. My brother purchased a 190XT Diesel with a stuck engine. Pulled the head as we suspected a blown head gasket. Found cylinders 3-4 is where it was blown and filled with antifreeze in the dome of the pistons. Filled the cylinders with Kroil several times over a few hours. Pulled the starter and Placed a large screw driver on the flywheel and with very little force she broke free. After a new head gasket, fresh rebuild of the injection pump, she runs great. Kroil and Seafoam are both wonderful products. After you get it running, put Seafoam in the crankcase several times with fresh 10w-30 and filter. It will clean the rings and all components inside the engine. When you drain it you will be shocked at how dirty fresh oil becomes as it cleans the engine. Figure on at least 2 filters and fresh oil before it clears. Well worth the money as the engine will be clean as well as the rings, head, valves. She will run much better as the carbon build up will be gone. Has worked well for me on multiple engines over the years.
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A steam Ginny would clean her up really well. You will be surprised how good the paint will look after its cleaned up since its been kept inside. How many hours are showing on the hour meter? Cleaning the grime off before digging into its issues makes it easier and cleaner to trouble shoot IMO. That is a great find, I couldn’t sleep at night due to the excitement of the project. Looking forward to reading your updates and seeing pictures of your progress.
Dads D-15 series II pulling the rake, new paint about 7 years ago. Has been a great tractor since new in 1968.
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If the engine is not stuck at all you should be able to move it by just using the fan belt. At least I could get it to move a touch anyways or put it in fourth gear and rocket lightly
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Personally I just use a good 10 W 30. And I wouldn’t spend a Ton of money on the oil until after you fired up and see if those rings are stuck.. But it is a good idea to change the oil that way you lubricate the top of the engine.
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Congrats man those back tires literally have no use on them. Like I said before give me a call if you want me to tell you all what I did with almost the exact same situation except I had to pay 800 which is still a steel
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BTW, what is the motor oil of choice for this Geezerette?
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This is better.....



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Hmmmm........images have been uploaded, but when I click on the images icon to add them, nothing happens? All other functions appear to be working, but not images?


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I've been on a few other forums, and if this one is anything like all the rest, payment in the form of pictures is the currency of choice in exchange for all the good advice given.

So......a progress update:

Got the tires aired up and they look much better than I expected. Flat, but NOT cracked as I thought. They look nearly new and were holding air. One rear had a bit of a crack in the sidewall, but came up and held. Rims have some rust down low however.

So with the tires up, we got her moved. I drove, and she handled well. Brakes were working perfect.

Engine covers off and so it begins........
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You can turn the engine by turning the PTO stub. Place tranny in neutral, engage the PTO and rotate the stub. It may be easier if you remove the spark plugs 1st.
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I've lived within 200 yards of this tractor for the past 2 years and didn't know it. Ball got rolling when I was looking for some storage space for square hay bales and some hay equipment. Place is rented, but that tenant isn't using the barn, so I asked and was told ok, but the barn would have to be cleaned out....old hay moved, hole in roof patched, doors fixed up.  No worries.

Then someone mentioned that also included an old broken down tractor, that was half buried in the dirt. Still no worries. First glance and something came out of my mouth that might have went something like "Jesus Christ...that's an Allis D15!"

They thought I was doing them a favor by taking it, so they would not have to find a way to haul it off. One man's treasure and all that. If it pans out and I get it running, I will still give them something for it. I'm still hoping I get to heaven.

About 5 years ago, I ran across a barn full of similar stuff. Two All Crops.....one a 60 and the other a 66. Owners (heirs of an estate) thought they would work, but were not sure about the belts. They also had an an old E combine, with two 10' platform heads and a 2 row picker.

Was offered good deals on all of them, but had no use for them at the time. They eventually sold at an estate auction. Pretty good deals as I recall. Buyer of the E towed it home, but sellers thought they did get it running.

So yes, that stuff is still out there. More than you know. Dwindling, yes, but it still exists.

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Yes they are !! Hunting them down and getting leads is half the fun. It’s addicting unfortunately ha ha
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Folks,
See these tractors are still out there hidden away and just waiting!
I see we have a pretty nice WD45D at the local tractor show this weekend for sale.
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Nice wheel weights ! Looks to be a really straight tractor
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. This is a before and after my D 15 was also in the barn for 20 years without moving!! It be too much typing but if you wanna give me a call tomorrow would be a lot easier for me to just tell you everything I did and the things you’re probably have to do as well.. Justin 740 272 1992 also Adter you get it rolling you will absolutely fall in love with it I have!!
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If you take the plugs out and squirt some type of oil in each cylinder, reach in and grab the fan and see if the engine will turn over without the plugs in.
 D15 II with 3 point has been my DREAM tractor for a long time. I wish a neighbor had one near me and wanted it removed from his property  Approve
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Welcome to the forum !!  Lots of good advice above,  D 15 is a nice tractor.
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There is a pull type JD sickle bar mower parked behind it, and I'm told that when the original owner retired, this tractor and that mower were the only pieces of equipment he kept, and used it to clip pastures, mow pond dams and road banks, etc. Prior to that, tractor was used in his general farm operations. I suspect it has only had one owner. BTW, I'm hoping to revive the mower too.

I also noticed that rod and am not sure what its purpose was. It does not appear to be part of the existing JD mower. It appears to me it is tied to the 3 point hitch on the left side, and projects motion forward. Good news is the original owner is still alive and may be able to tell us what it is.

BTW, 3 point lift, no snap coupler and no center link to be found. One single hose hydraulic service. Fixed up and running, this could be a handy little tractor for a lot of things. Mowing and raking hay both come to mind.
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Looks like a sickle bar hold up rod tied to the left side of the tractor and the sickle mower parked behind it. If that was its job in life it should be a good tractor.   
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Congratulations you lucky dog! That is a Series II and is a very nice find. Welcome to the Forum. Already some good advice given and like has already been said the first thing I would do is drag it home.
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I recently bought a D17 that had been sitting 5 to 7 years put some fresh gas in the tank ,got the gas to running to the carb and out out the drain.Filed the points,clean up the rotor button,cleaned up the contacts on the dist cap.Installed new battery cranked it over a few times it fired up and I backed it off the trailer.Get it home before you work on it as the person who gave it to you might decide they need to keep it once it becomes a running
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I agree Free is good. Getting it home on your property even better! Great gift. It will cause you pleasure and pain! But its worth it!
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First thing I'd do with a FREE tractor would be to air up the tires and drag it HOME!.  No matter what the other problems you may encounter, at least its a short walk, to mess with it...

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Found a gallon of fresh 50/50 Prestone antifreeze and was pleased when it only took about 1/2 of it to bring radiator coolant up to visible level and was not leaking any.

Was also relieved to find out our local Ford/New Holland dealer, who used to sell Allis, still stocks many of the common Allis parts, like oil filters, air filters, etc. and can get most others given enough time. They also stock carb kits and will do the rebuild in their shop if I bring it it.

This is looking better all the time, so next step will be for me to air up the tires and drag her home to my shop and get busy on it.


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