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    Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 2:07pm
Someone shared this on the Facebook fan page...so I thought it was worth sharing here.
 
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how did he pull that on a slick road?
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Probably just slick enough that an inexperienced bus driver, couldn't get moving from the stop sign.  He probably didn't really do much, but get the bus moving.  The guys pushing on the side tells me the driver was just flooring the fuel pedal, so they had to keep him from sliding sideways.  Just a thought, I wasn't there, so I don't really know what they were up against.
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Originally posted by Charlie175 Charlie175 wrote:

how did he pull that on a slick road?
 
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Our bus driver back in the day had all us kids sit over the rear wheels a time or two for weight. It worked.
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When I was riding the bus back in the 50s, the bigger boys had to help the driver put the chains on when needed which didn't happen infrequently in bad winters.
Never see that happen in this day and age!  LOL
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I remember back before they had snow days(1959), our bus got stuck. A couple 8th graders threw Calvin S. out the back door and he was armpit deep in snow that we had just gone through. I think we had to sit there till another bus got done with it's route and dumped the kids off before it came to get us. No idea what was used to dig the bus out but it was in deep.
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Did anyone on this page ever ride a school bus with a Dodge powerwagon chassis? I have seen pictures of them on the internet.
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Originally posted by Brian G.  NY Brian G. NY wrote:

When I was riding the bus back in the 50s, the bigger boys had to help the driver put the chains on when needed which didn't happen infrequently in bad winters.
Never see that happen in this day and age!  LOL
We were still doing that as late as 1979............ Sometimes if we were stuck real bad, one boy would walk to the nearest farm and bring back a tractor to pull us out...
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All the busses around here have instachains. But they cancel schools as soon as they forcast fluries.

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The busses here also have those types of chains.  As in MD, they also cancel school here with the first 1/4 inch of snow.  They got caught with their pants down a few weeks back when it snowed during the day.  One of the busses got stuck in two inches of snow in the upper part of town.  The driver didn't know how to activate the chains.  They were never shown how.
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i remember one time our driver backed into a creek and the hole front end of the bus was stuck in the air that was the worst stuck i ever seen had two tractors to pull that oopsWink out
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What the heck is this instachains? Never heard of it.
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well, that was a new oneon me !!
 
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Ah Ok I'm back. Just decided to pass by the site here one more time before getting off the computer here.

Thanks for the quick reply Steve. Interesting- Never heard of or saw these so-called "instachains" before. They look kind of hokey to me. I wonder if they are powered to spin in some way, or are you just supposed to hope that they will just flop into place under the tire so as to provide the traction?

Wonder how far those chains would fly if they ever broke loose? If the vehicle driver is really spinning his wheels fast, just wait until those chains break loose and fly out and hit a pedestrian in the face or wherever....


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they work great....but they have to be mounted correctly! i know of some that have them on their semi's, have saved them alot of tows and damage!
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Rich...they used alot of the Dodge power wagon buses in Minn. i've seen quite a few on Ebay! and that's where they came from....i suppose many of the northern states used them too! they were mostly shorter buses, but NOT the real short bus, and had 4x4 with meaty tires!
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OB...it looks like they were pushing on the side to keep the bus from sliding into that car that was parked along side!
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Originally posted by SHAMELESS SHAMELESS wrote:

OB...it looks like they were pushing on the side to keep the bus from sliding into that car that was parked along side!

Oh ya, you are right, but unless you are spinning typically you don't slide sideways.  If the driver simply would have had the bus in 2nd gear (assuming automatic), and just helped the tractor help him.  I.e. just enough torque to load the wheels but not break free, and the tractor pulling....there would have been no spinning, and no need to worry about sliding sideways.  Not to mention while the tractor is pulling the driver has the wheels cocked to the right, almost hard over.  Again I wasn't there, but it just seems like the driver didn't have a clue how to be towed away from the stop sign.  Now I am not saying any one of us here would not have lost traction in that situation, that looks like a show stopper for any of us, maybe a little freezing rain, a light dusting of snow, stop sign on an incline, every one of us would have lost traction trying to get moving again, but what I am talking about is AFTER the tractor shows up.
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Had those chains on our Fire rigs up here in WI.  Lost one bunch of links one day.  Went through a picture window bout 40' away.  Dropped right inside, but scared the guy who was sitting there watching TV. Didn't even know it happened till the Chief called.  Glad nobody was in the way!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHt-Up31Ujg
Often wondered why someone would store their chains so far under the vehicle !
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We never had a 4 wheel drive bus like a "Power-Wagon" but Lord knows we could have used one on some of the dirt roads around here at the time.                                   The first schoolbus I rode on was small and built on the "little" Mack chasis; can't remember the model but I think it was a '39 or '40. It was still being used as a backup until the very early 50s. It was the last of the buses painted green and white, our school colors. We had a Brockway, a White and an Autocar in our fleet as well.                     We also had one "Bluebird" flatnosed bus; the only one!                                                                                 

From the mid 50s up (and to this day) most of the buses are Internationals.
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 back in the late 60's never had the luxury of a school bus. walked over 1/2 mile to school( small 2 room community school) grades 1-8.teacher came to school by horse and sleigh. school was almost never cancelled
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When I was in high school, the buses may not have run but school was still open.  On those days, I drove our '54 Ford F-500 truck 15 miles to school.  This was fun.  Got to drag main street after school in the truck.
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I bet those instachains could cause havoc on brake lines and emergency brake cables.
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I had never heard of instachains until about a month ago when a bus trying to get up to our nearby mountain ski area during a heavy snow storm spun out and blocked the access road for over an hour and a half. The news report said that it had instachains and only one side wanted to engage. Now I know what they are.
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