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    Posted: 22 hours 16 minutes ago at 7:42pm
Is there a direct bolt on replacement
turbo for to3 air research turbo on
a 220/210 besides another one.
One that is bigger say like a switzer 3lm 466
0r similar.
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The next logical step up in a 210-220 Air-Research turbo is a very small step, but nevertheless is configured to replace the old T0-4 V-band clamp compressor housing. Any Air-Research brand turbo that fits a 7030-40-45-50-60 will bolt right on and the exhaust will come out thru the hood in the same place. Now, don't think you're going to do this with a USED turbo. The 7000-series turbo must be "clocked" to fit backwards on the engine and you'll never get that accomplished on a used unit. So, go with a reman or new. Anything for even more performance has an off-center turbine shaft and will require everything to be different/changed including the hole in the hood unless you can fab up an elbow to meet the hood hole.
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So what does clocked mean Dr,that's above
my knowledge.
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If you take any turbo and mount it around bass-ackwards, the oil lines and compressor outlet won't be aimed at where they now need to be.  The center section and compressor housing need to be rotated (clocked) to get things pointed where they need to be. Unfortunately, the bolts on the exhaust housing will be rusted in place. The center section will be rusted in place. All this due to the exhaust heat over the years of use. Some turbos will be impossible to clock. Some might not be too bad with an experienced person and a torch to heat things. Just don't plan on it.
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There is no direct bolt on turbo that is larger for performance that will fit these early AC engines. Anything you put on will require modifications, and likely a new hole in the hood. Once I finally bit the bullet and did it, it was the best thing I could have done. We need to quit worrying about not cutting the hood. An S200 or S300 works very well, depending on the application and fuel system. 
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Yeah before I knew it was "wrong" I cut an oval hole in 220 hood to use a 7030 muffler. No easy task! That hood ain't no sheet metal!
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I figure out exactly where stack will be, then use a hole saw. If I was making an oval hole on a 210/220, I'd use a hole saw at each end, then just use the jig saw to connect the 2 holes. I also have a cordless steel cutting circular saw, that cuts like butter, but only straight lol!
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Farmall must not have had the hood-hole-cutting technology that others had !! The always had the oval part above the hood line !!!
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