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Brad1 
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 6:22am |
Hello, 1961 D15, I really need help identifying the partial round ring in the pic. I removed the side cover and found this inside the torque tube. I've looked at the shop repair manual, looked online for a description and see nothing about this ring/spacer/shim? What is it, where does it go, and how do I get a replacement? I need to know more about this before I split the tractor. I have a replacement brass collar and PD shifter fork. 
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DrAllis
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 7:38am |
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You're going to have to split it anyway. Is it round wire??? or flat like a snap ring?? I cannot think of anything in that area that is bigger diameter than the shifter for the brass collar.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 10:14am |
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Hello, neither a wire nor snap ring. It's flat like a shim or a spacer. I can see by the blue RTV that someone has had this split for whatever reason. Have you seen anything like this in the PD clutch itself?
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 10:21am |
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Nope.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 1:18pm |
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Looks like a case of "someone who didn't know what they were doing " worked on it.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 2:04pm |
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I think once this Power Director clutch is out on a work bench, it needs a complete disassembly and the eyes of an experienced person to look at it. I have a feeling the shim stacks are waaaay off and who knows what else is wrong with it. I'll bet the ramp plates pockets are on the verge of jump out when at full throttle too.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 3:46pm |
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kinda seems like it
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 3:48pm |
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OK and thanks, I agree
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 4:34pm |
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Think that is the end of the power director clutch hub broke off...
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Posted: 06 Oct 2025 at 7:20pm |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like there is a particular direction that the brass piece needs to be assembled relative to it working with the shifter fork?
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Posted: Yesterday at 7:06am |
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Good thought, if there is I need to know.
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Posted: Yesterday at 7:34am |
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The brass collar has a thick (rear) side and a thin (front) side. It will be obvious which way it goes when you assemble it.
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Posted: 20 hours 50 minutes ago at 12:27pm |
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I appreciate your response, thank you.
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Posted: 20 hours 47 minutes ago at 12:30pm |
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Yes, I found one brass collar pin broken off and a piece from the collar fork broken off.
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Posted: 11 hours 49 minutes ago at 9:28pm |
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That almost circular steel flat ring looks to be what is left of the square ridge that the brass shifter clamps around on the clutch shifter. Once the square ridge wears down very thin, and thus weak, it will break off the clutch shifter. I've only seen this once on a parts tractor, usually the brass shifter wears out first, but who's to say that hasn't been replaced once before?
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Posted: 1 hour 58 minutes ago at 7:19am |
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Thanks for your opinion! I have a parts book and a repair/shop manual and looking at pics online but not sure I can see what you're referring too. What was square but now worn round? So, this may have been where the fork contacts the brass collar?
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Posted: 1 hour 47 minutes ago at 7:30am |
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On second thought the fork only contacts the brass collar pins/dogs
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