Unstated WC wheels

They used the same early style manifold on both fuels but the square plate that bolts onto the manifold was different for the different fuels.

Did they use different manifolds for different fuels? This has been a fun posting. After reading these, I would bet the WC would have been the model with the most changes.

Edited by Unit3 - 04 Jan 2017 at 12:04am

have 2 39's no hole in the hood' ex' out the side. the 40 that was bought new came out the hood

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Green wheels werent factory installed. Allis painted them black from the factory. I assume they recieved them bare from F&H. If the dealer installed a set of F&h wheels a used or new tractor in the 1930's they were dark green (this was F&H's color) during that period.
Our '35 UC has a set of F&h round spokes and they are dark green. My grandad bought the tractor during the summer of 1941 with those wheels. It came new on steel. We know this because 4th gear was blocked off in the transmission until the 1950's. Plate removed when a new clutch was installed.

I know farmalls (regulars, f20 etc on steel were shipped with no lugs or guide rings installed. They were included in a big cloth bag for the dealer to install.[/QUOTE]

The WC parts book shows side exhaust manifolds up to engine #106509 which in theory is late 1940. Engine #'s are just a theory remember.

CALEBnOK Thank you for the history on Green Wheels. That is great to know that they were repainted from green to black at AC. 

Wow, looks like I started the giant serial number party

The 5 bolt rims were the newest version. They used 17" spoked wheels until 1936 (serial #23529),6 bolt wheels until 1937(serial #59627) and after that was the 5 bolt. They made way more 5 bolt than any other so you have the most common replacement for the 17" that yours would have come with. 17's can be pricey.

1006 is 1934

Brian F(IL) wrote: Unit3 wrote: Brian, double check your S.N. Your hood doesn't have the curved tin that goes down to the radiator. Could yours be a 1935 or maybe an early 1936? Also, if you had flat spoke steel wheel, they were painted orange. Round spoke for rubber tires were painted black. I have seen one early WC with factory green round spoke for rubber tires. Ours is an early 1936 model, serial # 14981.  Again, not sure about what might have happened to the hood... was well before my time around the farm.

Green wheels werent factory installed. Allis painted them black from the factory. I assume they recieved them bare from F&H. If the dealer installed a set of F&h wheels a used or new tractor in the 1930's they were dark green (this was F&H's color) during that period.
Our '35 UC has a set of F&h round spokes and they are dark green. My grandad bought the tractor during the summer of 1941 with those wheels. It came new on steel. We know this because 4th gear was blocked off in the transmission until the 1950's. Plate removed when a new clutch was installed.

I know farmalls (regulars, f20 etc on steel were shipped with no lugs or guide rings installed. They were included in a big cloth bag for the dealer to install.

brian' your #14981 is a good one 1934 should have 24'' spoked or steel' don't know wear some look up these numbers' but there not right' i also have two 34's yours looks good. the black book from out of the plant don't lie''#22816 starts 1935' will look for your tractor at some shows this summer. 

Brian, double check your S.N. Your hood doesn't have the curved tin that goes down to the radiator. Could yours be a 1935 or maybe an early 1936? Also, if you had flat spoke steel wheel, they were painted orange. Round spoke for rubber tires were painted black. I have seen one early WC with factory green round spoke for rubber tires.

AC was a leader in the mid 30s in rubber tractor tires showing that they caused less compaction in the fields and took less fuel to do the same work. I don't have proof, but based on their plow books and options its very likely than when ordering a tractor that wheels were one of the options to select rubber or steel, and since there appears to have been more than one wheel style for rubber possibly that style was a choice along with tire size. There probably was a standard wheel that changed by serial number but the options likely continued. During WW2 several tractor makers went back to steel wheels as an option because rubber for tires was destined primarily for military uses, not domestic uses, though farm use got a little priority over car tires. So after the war, there could easily have been tractors only 2 or 3 years old with steel wheels.

Its highly likely that many a spoked steel wheel had the steel cut off and a rim welded on for a quick and low cost switch to rubber.

Gerald J.

Those are the "dish" style. I have a set if interested