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    Posted: 10 May 2012 at 4:30am
Guys:  Has anyone here used a 226 power unit engine in a D17 Series IV tractor.  

Any modifications to contend with, I am assuming the power unit is a direct bolt in replacement, but have not done this conversion.  

Any comments or thoughts would be great.  Thank-you...Orangeman

PS - Is the radiator in the power unit the same as in the D17 tractor?  Reason I ask is that some of the smaller AC power units like the 149 the radiators are not the same as in the tractor.
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The rad in my g226 power unit is not the same rad as a 17, and as for putting the engine  in a 17 I dont know why it wouldnt work, but I would think if you had a g226 power unit  you should be able to sell it and make enough to put a little cash in your pocket and  buy a gleaner E engine to put in your 17
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It needs to be a G-226 power unit,  not a W-226 power unit.
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Hello Dr.  Allis: Can you give me some tip on the difference between the G and W 226 power unit models. 

Thank-you Orangeman
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W-226 is commonly used in the WD45 application. The G226 was first used in the D17 application and later on the 170-175 and E and E3 Gleaner combines.  Look at the serial number behind the carb air inlet hose stamped on the block. If it says 45- XXXXXXX it's a WD45 engine. If it says 17-XXXXXX it's a D17 engine. There are also several other ways to ID which one it is.
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Dr. Allis Very helpful will look for the 17 -xxxxx appreciate the help.
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Ok guys I did positively identify that it is a W-226 power unit as it starts with 45 xxxxx on the block.  

Question - Can the W-226 go into a WC tractor without mods?

Thank you for any comments or help.  Orangeman
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

It needs to be a G-226 power unit,  not a W-226 power unit.


Are you saying a W226 engine won't bolt up in place of a G226? I always thought you could bolt a 17 engine in a WC and visa versa.


Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 11 May 2012 at 8:10pm
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As far as bolting in, both G and W 226 engines are the same. The G 226 has a rib cast into the block on both sides just above the oil pan and also has 3" mains instead of 2.5" so is a more robust engine.
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Calvin and Charlie:  Thanks for the info.   That is quite a jump from 2.5 to 3" mains.  

We have a few WC around our area that could use a donor engine, so was thinking the W-226 could go in place of the old WC engine. 

When did Allis start to equip the 226 block with a Dry element air cleaner?
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