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Wheel Weight Advice on a 185
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    Posted: 03 May 2016 at 8:57am
I am thinking about purchasing a 185. The back wheels do not have fluid. The tractor has 18.4-28 tires. I would like to add some wheel weights. Would the wheel weights off of a WD45 bolt on? Would the section weights be better? Thanks!
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Section weights would probably be heavier. WD weights might be hard to find, even if they would fit. I glanced through a few tire manufacturer's web pages a while back and they all seem to think that a 2WD tractor should be weighted 60/40 rear to front.
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WD45 wheel weights are not a perfect fit.  You would need weights from a D17 Series III or newer because of the change from eccentrics to locking bolts for the power adjust rims.
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You'll have a lot of weights to match full fluid, which would be about 750 lbs per tire.
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

You'll have a lot of weights to match full fluid, which would be about 750 lbs per tire.
Agreed. It's hard to beat fluid for not only the amount of weight but the cost per pound. 
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Just to add to what has all ready been posted you WILL need a stack of iron on a 185 with no fluid if your going to do any type serious work with the tractor.  Ours has dry 18-4-28 rears, a full rack of suitcase weights up front plus the sectional weights on the back and it isnt near heavy enough although we get by with it due to our very light usage of the tractor.
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If you're just doing light work or haying that you'll probably be ok with no weight. A 185 only weighs 6700lbs, so you won't do much pulling without some weight. It all depends on what your plans are for the tractor.
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I have 18.4X30's on my 180 filled with CaCl to the valve when it's rotated to the top.  It's just enough for tillage work (4X16's 74 plow, 13' 1200 FC, 12' Allis KT HD disc).   If I go to the creek with the loader bucket on and dip a bucket of gravel out, I hardly have any traction left in the rear.   Mike
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What are you planning on using the 185 for??
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I will be pulling a 14 foot disc, 6 row planter, and hay equipment. I am trying to decide whether to pump chloride into those tires with immaculate rims.      Yes, there would be no spinning with 750 pounds per tire with fluid!!
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In all honesty you'd be better off putting duals on that tractor for your planned uses. You'd have less soil compaction too.
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Methanol alcohol is best fluid. Doesn't rust the rim like calcium will. Some people like beet juice. JMHO, Tracy
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No matter what you put inside the tires for weight, the first time you have a flat all is lost and you have to pay to have it replaced. Cast I weights will last forever. As mentioned Duals would do you better in the long run and they are easy yo remove when not needed. 
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I don't have anything to poke holes in my tires so I prefer chloride but have found it a good practice to replace cores at least every other year if not every year.They get ate up and start leaking and if they go too long you're digging them out in pieces.
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Originally posted by GlenB(IA) GlenB(IA) wrote:

I will be pulling a 14 foot disc, 6 row planter, and hay equipment. I am trying to decide whether to pump chloride into those tires with immaculate rims.      Yes, there would be no spinning with 750 pounds per tire with fluid!!

Got a 185 in the shed Dad bought new. Never had fluid in it. Rims are perfect. 1 set of rear wheel weight. Pulled 15' disc when it was new, 6row planter, 8 row planter. 2 200 bushel wagons to town thousands of times. Don't ruin your rims.
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

I don't have anything to poke holes in my tires so I prefer chloride but have found it a good practice to replace cores at least every other year if not every year.They get ate up and start leaking and if they go too long you're digging them out in pieces.


x2 - every other year for me...cheap maintenance item...no issues so far.   Mike
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1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
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put a set of pie weights on the inside and a set of solids on the outside. Oh and post sum pics.
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My 185 has 30 in rears, I have WD weights on it, maybe not perfect fit but will work.
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I filled my 7000 tires with water. I have no plans to use it in the winter. After a discussion with my local tire guy we decided for how I'm using I'll fill them in the Spring and drain them in the Fall.

Its cheap, easy, and effective, and rust shouldn't be an issue.

It may seem like a bit of a pain to do this every Spring & Fall, and it may turn into one, but so far its a non issue. I hooked up the garden hose while I was doing some other maintenance stuff and let them fill.

Total cost - $10.00 for the fill valve.
Total weight - around 750-800# per tire.

I considered used antifreeze but didn't want to get into any disposal issues if I ever did have an issue. Used antifreeze is also pretty cheap and easy to get ahold of. Just check with your local boneyard.

Edited by Play Farmer - 04 May 2016 at 5:31am
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