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d17brown 
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Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 2:45pm |
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Ky.Allis
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Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 3:40pm |
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Why would they have built it with no PTO?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 6:07pm |
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Tractors used on construction sites had no need for a PTO or three point hitch. Some large farms in the west only used them as a drawbar tractor. They didn't need a PTO either. PTO was always OPTIONAL, not standard equipment.
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sparky
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Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 6:27pm |
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I remember the term “Bareback” was used for a tractor with only a drawbar.
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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Ky.Allis
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Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 8:48pm |
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I understand that many areas/applications have no need for a PTO, but I would bet that at some point in its 50-60 yr. life, the PTO would have been used if it had it.
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jiminnd
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Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 9:35pm |
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I had a 1968 with pto but no 3pt. Got it used, worked for me, did use the pto on pull type combine. The next tractor I got had 3 pt as starting some row crops. Wish I could get one now for what I paid in 1971, 3 years old, 800 hours, $6050.
Edited by jiminnd - 20 Jan 2025 at 4:15pm
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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 23 Jan 2025 at 11:47am |
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Up here in North Dakota, west of the water, used to be that row crops were unheard of. So many tractors of that vintage and size, regardless of the color, were bought with one intention; to pull pin hitch implements around the field. If farmers could save five hundred bucks by not having a PTO or 3 point hitch, they called it a win, since, in their mind, they would never use either anyway. I'm sure that the farmers that are still around now, who purchased tractors that way, regret it now. But money back then had a little more meaning then it does now, and saving five hundred bucks was a big deal. Sometimes the difference between being able to afford the tractor or not. And they had no idea that these tractors would soon be out dated as a "big field tractor", so the ones who had at least a PTO, could at least use it on an auger. Now tractors of D21 size aren't even big enough to run some augers. Darrel
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d17brown
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Posted: 25 Jan 2025 at 2:05pm |
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