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Cubfan ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2018 Location: MI Points: 9 |
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We were trying to move our 38 B today by hand (crank start but not today for some reason) and when turning the steering we heard a snap and then the wheel just spins. I pulled it and it looks like there should be a woodruff key locking the wheel to the shaft. Not sure where it went but it's gone. Anyone know of a source for a new one or have a schematic of the steering wheel area? Any help would be appreciated.
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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If you talking about the steering wheel spinning it has a half round key.
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Albert ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW MO Points: 410 |
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70905123 AGCO number I will help you if you need tomorrow if I can find sixe I will post it also
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Albert ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW MO Points: 410 |
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3/16 x 3/4 woodruff key
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 87100 |
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local hardware store.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Cubfan ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2018 Location: MI Points: 9 |
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thanks guys, I will try the hardware store tomorrow
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wade89 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2018 Location: Northern MN Points: 219 |
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My B did the same thing a couple years ago. It was the little stud on the "lever shaft" that rides in the worm gear. If yours is a 1938, it'll only have one stud, not 2 like in the picture above.
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Gary ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5897 |
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If the nut holding the Steering Wheel on is tight, I doubt if it is the key. Watch the nut and the end of the shaft and see if they turn with the wheel. Gary |
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WF owner ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4979 |
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Just proves what I have always said; A lot of the problem is the nut behind the steering wheel !
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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This might have broke off or pushed back away it the steering wheel is turning the shaft,
![]() I have never heard of the shaft separating from the worm but who knows without ex ray vision. ![]() Edited by Dick L - 27 Nov 2019 at 3:14pm |
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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I just remembered buying a B with a ross steering box cover broke letting the shaft move the pall away from the worm. Something else to look for!
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wade89 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2018 Location: Northern MN Points: 219 |
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That pall will actually snap right off sometimes as well or wear out if someone put grease in the box instead of oil. I went through 4 boxes to build 1 good one for my B.
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DaveKamp ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 6045 |
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Engine doesn't turn, AND steering is stuck? Pull it into the shop, let it warm up for a day, then try it. If they turn... drain the water out...
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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