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Topic: B steering problem
Posted By: Cubfan
Subject: B steering problem
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 5:46pm
We were trying to move our 38 B today by hand (crank start but not today for some reason) and when turning the steering we heard a snap and then the wheel just spins.  I pulled it and it looks like there should be a woodruff key locking the wheel to the shaft.  Not sure where it went but it's gone.  Anyone know of a source for a new one or have a schematic of the steering wheel area?   Any help would be appreciated.



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Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 6:01pm
If you talking about the steering wheel spinning it has a half round key.

this drawing might help.



Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 6:10pm
70905123 AGCO number I will help you if you need tomorrow if I can find sixe I will post it also
Albert
Ziegler AG 660 582 5150


Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 6:24pm
3/16 x 3/4 woodruff key
Albert


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 6:33pm
local hardware store.

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Posted By: Cubfan
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 7:23pm
thanks guys, I will try the hardware store tomorrow



Posted By: wade89
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 7:29pm
My B did the same thing a couple years ago. It was the little stud on the "lever shaft" that rides in the worm gear. If yours is a 1938, it'll only have one stud, not 2 like in the picture above.


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 8:36pm

If the nut holding the Steering Wheel on is tight, I doubt if it is the key.

Watch the nut and the end of the shaft and see if they turn with the wheel.

Gary


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 5:53am
Just proves what I have always said; A lot of the problem is the nut behind the steering wheel !


Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 3:13pm
This might have broke off or pushed back away it the steering wheel is turning the shaft,



I have never heard of the shaft separating from the worm but who knows without ex ray vision.



Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2019 at 9:23am
I just remembered buying a B with a ross steering box cover broke letting the shaft move the pall away from the worm. Something else to look for!


Posted By: wade89
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2019 at 10:30am
That pall will actually snap right off sometimes as well or wear out if someone put grease in the box instead of oil. I went through 4 boxes to build 1 good one for my B.


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2019 at 1:13pm
Engine doesn't turn, AND steering is stuck?

Pull it into the shop, let it warm up for a day, then try it.  If they turn... drain the water out...


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