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dpower 
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 Posted: 02 Apr 2015 at 12:08am |
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Man oh man that looks factory. You should be very proud of your work. When can i send you up my 8070????
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Peterson
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Posted: 02 Apr 2015 at 7:01am |
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Thanks!!! I appreciate the kind words!!! And you can send it up whenever!! lol I wouldn't mind getting in to doin engine rebuilds for ya guys!
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Posted: 02 Apr 2015 at 5:28pm |
Got the other front engine plate back today. Got the 3 other holes drilled and the top ground out for the rack cap. The bottom left hole in pic will need a very short headed bolt to clear the idler gear inside the front cover.  And why I say other 3 holes drilled is because the top right hole is one that's factory for the roosamaster.
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Posted: 02 Apr 2015 at 9:25pm |
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I think 210-220 is a little light on the hp estimate. With the S300 & upgraded pump, injectors& bigger lines it should be around 240-ish.....
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Peterson
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Posted: 02 Apr 2015 at 9:41pm |
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Bigger lines do nothing for HP. Injectors will flow about the same amount of fuel. Hp will depend on the injection pump and turbo. Turbo because you will be getting a cooler more dense air charge, and pump because of more fuel. Seeing that our 220 has pretty much the same setup but it has 140cc of fuel, she is at 220 HP at 1000 PTO rpm. So seeing that the hydro pump of the 8000 series take more HP, im guessing around 210-220. But I guess we will see. When its back together, I will be taking it for a drive to the local dealer and put it on the dyno.
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Posted: 02 Apr 2015 at 9:44pm |
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And according to KcGrain, a 140HP pump from a deere will give the 426 190HP. So if Ed would chime in on how many CC's a 4450 or whatever deere that's 140 hp we could figure it out.
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Posted: 03 Apr 2015 at 9:47am |
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well, a stock 4440 which is a 466 is 98cc @ 2200rpm, and that should make for a 130 pto hp.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted: 04 Apr 2015 at 10:11am |
Rods balanced within 3-4 grams of each other. The were 25-30 grams difference... 
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Posted: 04 Apr 2015 at 2:05pm |
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What's your method for balancing connecting rods?
Not trying to pry, I'm just curious. I've never done it.
I really enjoy seeing & reading what you share - thank you.
Please keep it coming...
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Posted: 04 Apr 2015 at 3:17pm |
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get a gram scale and balance both ends. Takes lots of time.
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Posted: 04 Apr 2015 at 9:56pm |
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Keep posting. I'm very interested in seeing the progress
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Posted: 10 Apr 2015 at 8:19am |
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Sorry I haven't posted a update guys, been working on the engine, but haven't had time to take many pics, I will get some uploaded later today or tomorrow. Got the head torqued down, and the engine painted yesterday. Prolly put it in tomorrow, got to run to town and get a few little things for the farm today. More updates to come.
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 8:37pm |
Almost ready to put in the tractor. Just need to get a few little things that didn't come in the kit. Here's a few pics of the progress.   Also have been doing alittle filter crossing and came up with this CAT filter for the By-pass. Its only $12 bucks at the local Cat dealer. Instead of $20 bucks for the Agco filter. And this is what my brother has been doing. Took up the mat and cleaned all the old dirt and who knows what else. lol here's a pic. 
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 8:39pm |
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what a nice brother!
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 8:49pm |
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Lol he did it to the one he drives, the 8030, now the 8070 needs it done too. Poor things are slowly rotting away...
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 8:55pm |
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What's the micron rating on that Cat filter??? I doubt that it's as fine/small as the AGCO luberfiner filter.
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Carl(NWWI)
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 9:22pm |
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I'll agree with you there DR. It cracks me up everyday when people get aftermarket filters cuz they are cheaper. Odds are its for a good reason. Equipment is designed to run a certain micron filter. I prooved it this winter and its been prooved in our shop at the case IH dealer.
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 9:36pm |
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The AC luberfiner filter is a low volume, very fine micron, intended to extend oil change intervals. A filter that is larger micron won't accomplish the intent of the luberfiner design.
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 10:05pm |
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What's the micron rating of the Agco filter? And is that rating single or multi pass.
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 10:06pm |
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I ran the Donaldson equivalent to the CAT filter on our 8050-70's for many thousands of hours and never had a problem and yes it is a 20 micron full flow filter. I do see you left the restrictor on coming off the oil cooler which is good. I really feel the extra oil capacity was the main idea behind the extra filter. We've used Delvac 15-40 since it's conception and at that time changed @ 100-125 hrs. Not trying to argue Doc as I see your point also. You've got a great project going , keep us posted. Mike
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 10:09pm |
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I like the crack about aftermarket filters too. You really think Case Ih or agco make there own filters? And CAT filters are not "aftermarket"
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 10:13pm |
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I don't think ANY manufacturer actually makes their own filters, but they do set the specs and oft times will-fit filters are not spec'd exactly the same.
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Posted: 12 Apr 2015 at 10:25pm |
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Also, seeing this is the PRIMARY oil filter and only filter on the Cat D6D Dozer of ours with a oil change interval of 250 hours. I feel that having this as the By-pass filter on a tractor that has its oil and primary filters changed at 60-70 hours and by-pass filter at 120-140 hours will be more just as good as the "FACTORY" filter.
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Posted: 13 Apr 2015 at 5:41pm |
Well, got it bolted up to the Bellhousing today. Got the turbo and injection lines on too. Got the frame rails all cleaned up and ready to put on. That's tomorrows job.  On this pic, you can see that you have to grind out alittle on the front plate for the rack cap. Still is sealed good by the gasket.
Edited by peterson - 13 Apr 2015 at 5:42pm
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Posted: 13 Apr 2015 at 10:05pm |
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Why do you have the injectors in 1/4 turn off? Unless the tips are drilled to be in 1/4 off you will loose power , smoke, and be hard to start. MACK
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Posted: 13 Apr 2015 at 10:06pm |
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5 hole Mack tips need to be turn a 1/4 turn to be correct.
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Posted: 13 Apr 2015 at 10:08pm |
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These are stock tips from a Mack injector, many guys use them in the IH injectors.
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Posted: 19 Apr 2015 at 7:55am |
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Sorry for no update guys, been working on it off and on. Got the throttle to work like factory. Got a new cable for it and had the adjust the linkage under the console to idle the engine properly and shut it off too. Been trying to do alittle field work also. Also took the front pivot off the front axle to have built up and remachined to spec. Plus ordered new hardened washers and bushings for it also. Should hopefully have that back by next week. Got new hoses made for the oil cooler up front also. Might as well do it while its readily accessible. Also not goin to put the fuel tanks on right away, going to pressure wash the whole thing underneath when it gets pulled outside.
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Posted: 19 Apr 2015 at 8:48am |
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I like the CAT filters have read a lot of good about them. Even put the conversion kit on my Duramax to run the CAT fuel filter. Also like the thread you got going here.
Edited by Andrew(southernIL) - 19 Apr 2015 at 8:49am
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Posted: 19 Apr 2015 at 10:20am |
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No, already knew that filters are made by outside sources. Just saying that aftermarket filters aren't the same micron rating. Had a customer put a wix filter on a mx240. Brand new filter and engine would missfire under load and throw fault codes. Put the right OEM filter on it and it ran just fine. And have 4 duramax trucks at home. All winter long they would push half a quart of oil out the side of the filter on cold starts. Put the OEM filters on and it quit. Filters were to restrictive, and all that does is either open the bypass or starv the system. Just because it fits doesn't make it right.
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