6060 fwd questions

Looking at a 1982 6060 fwd , serial number 2707 , I have heard talk that the engines had some front engine seal problems , what year did they fix that ? , is there anything else I should look for , the tractor has 5000 hrs on it and the owner says nothing has ever been done to the motor except general oil changes , thanks

6060 did not have a bra

My 6060 has a bra too.  5000 hours is about rebuild time, isn't it?  Mine is cold blooded and I use the block heater below 60 degrees.  Almost impossible to find 18.4 x 28 tires.  Nice comfortable tractor.

Edited by WNYBill - 22 Apr 2019 at 6:21am

Our 6080 has 7000 hours and still runs good. I wouldn’t worry about the hours.

Also the later 6000 series production years had the international thrust bearing reinforced. That’s probably about the time the 6070 went into production so my guess is all 6060s should have the bra. I cannot confirm that. Maybe somebody else will know for sure. 82 would be one of the early ones so I would expect to see it on that one.

Edited by wekracer - 22 Apr 2019 at 8:59am

Our original 6080’s made 8000 ish on engines. One had a hole in the sleeve the other was done as preventative maintenance.

From what I remember as to the front "bra" update all 6080s were to have the kit installed by the dealer. 6060s that were on dealer lots and under factory warranty were to have the "bra" installed. However, if you had a 6060 that was out of warranty when the update came out they were available but customer was supposed to pay for them. Now my understanding is there were few 6060 s that were already out of warranty when the kit came out.
The reason behind the update is there were 6080s (which had a more robust 2 stage clutch) running in the midsouth (Tennessee latitude) that were blowing up because it was not cold enough for all the tractors to get block heaters and when cranking the cold (below 40 degrees) engine with the pto and foot clutch pressing against the flywheel for 15 to 20 seconds with no oil pressure, it was a perfect storm. Add to that the manual was less than clear (in my opinion) the definition of "seasonal disconnect" (the leaver on the left).
We used our 6080 on the feed grinder then hooked it to a disc for 60 to 80 hours then back to the grinder. We did not disengage the "seasonal disconnect" because in our minds we were still using the pto in the season.
Only years later was the real story of the "bra" explained. Our local dealer and All is did not want it for public consumption that the 6000 series had a major flaw. The competition would have gone gangbusters with that knowledge and at the time Allis sold more 6080s than any other model tractor. (According to Norms book)

This post is already to long so I thank those that followed me to the end. Good night.

I can assure you, if you are talking king pins and U-joints on an FWA axle, it won't be cheap.

Very few parts still available for the 1980's fwa except from bone yard. Issue for all colors not just Allis.