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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29705 |
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Had mine off to replace three bad shift forks. Fun part is not the removal but the reinstall as have the third fork for reverse to get into the slider down deep in trans. Is a process in the service manuals for reinstall. My reverse fork broke off at that time.
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mintenfarmer
Silver Level Joined: 22 May 2015 Location: Minnesota Points: 191 |
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If I fix this tractor up I will most likely keep it. I went up to the local dealer today, he had never heard of the longer shift rail before.
My next question is can I pull the transmission cover off or will that cause extra problems? At least then I could find out what I have. |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29705 |
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If I were going to the effort to rebuild the engine, had it split in two for the clutch and the seals noted it is NOT that hard to pull the trans and fix it right as well. Why grouse on that part where the engine will be fresh? If not complete and fully functional with a potential to still drop out of fourth it still won't bring any real return for sale as a rebuilt tractor.
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mintenfarmer
Silver Level Joined: 22 May 2015 Location: Minnesota Points: 191 |
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19601 |
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70261443 is the deep shift 4th gear rail for 180-185-190-190XT-200 transmissions. 70261385 is the newest 3rd/4th fork with thicker tangs. 70229458 is a second detent spring. This info needs to be put in the knowledge base info please.
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19601 |
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70261443 is the deep shift into 4th gear rail. Add an extra spring 70229458 to the detent ball. The newest thicker tang fork is 70261385. If your 180 has original parts in it, these will probably take care of the 4th gear problem. Remember the shift cover dowel bolts go in the left front and right rear corners. I would do this FIRST before any split at the dashboard. If it doesn't fix it, you need more internal parts like the transmission input shaft and maybe the 3rd/4th coupling. Know what you have to work with to avoid splitting it TWICE.
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Joe(TX)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1682 |
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Are you talking about the clutch shaft seal or the transmission input seal? Two different splits. The clutch shaft seal is easy with the engine removed.It may need the input shaft and 4th gear coupling if it jumps out of gear.
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MACK
Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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Don't know what all it needs. If it needs transmission input seal, it may need PD seal housing and Orings. MACK
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mintenfarmer
Silver Level Joined: 22 May 2015 Location: Minnesota Points: 191 |
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I am planning on rebuilding my 180's engine since I have not been able to sell it. What should I all do to the rear end while I have it apart? It's going to get a new clutch and the transmission input seal replaced also. Could someone explain more on the longer shift rails update for fourth gear as it pops out sometimes. Thanks
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