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Lars(wi) 
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 Posted: 22 Jul 2023 at 7:26am |
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If the supply is moved to breakers of the same row in the breaker box, does that improve the issue?
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Lars(wi)
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Posted: 22 Jul 2023 at 7:36am |
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Otherwise, to avoid any confusion, run a XX-4 wire and break the tab on both sides, black and red on the ‘hot’ side, white and wrap the exposed blue with white tape and run as a neutral. Problem solved?
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 22 Jul 2023 at 8:01am |
Lars, really not the best idea to use 12-4 and use the blue wire as a ground, but that WOULD WORK.... . NO 12-3 ( red- black- white - without ground ) .... You should be using a ROMEX 12-3 WITH GROUND........ The BREAKER needs to be double breaker as we use on 240 volt systems.. That gives you TWO POLES of 120v..... Not the smaller "SPLIT" breaker that has two small breakers on one leg... that would be a NO- NO. ( of course you have to have the right BRAND name for your box)
Edited by steve(ill) - 22 Jul 2023 at 8:29am
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Lars(wi)
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Posted: 22 Jul 2023 at 8:22am |
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Didn’t say cut the blue. Break the tab between the ‘hots’ and break the tab between the neutral. Use the red and white wire for one circuit. Use the black(hot) and use the blue as a neutral(wrapped with white tape). A single pole 20amp breaker for each hot. Workable?
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 22 Jul 2023 at 8:37am |
Yes, that is POSSIBLE... but the two INDIVIDUAL BREAKERS have to be side by side to get TWO DIFFERENT POLES.... By "CODE" the two breakers SHOULD be tied together so when one trips, the other trips..... That way you can not shut off one breaker, and still have a HOT plug box............ but YES.. it will work... and YES.. you can use the BLUE wire as a ground if you have 12-4 wire available instead of 12-3 with ground..
(i was adding photos and updating my text when you posted above... I did initially think you said CUT the blue wire, not TAPE the blue wire white )
Edited by steve(ill) - 22 Jul 2023 at 8:41am
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