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captaindana 
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Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 3:46pm |
Dr A was right; timing wasn't my problem. I tore the head off figuring to have valves all checked out by local guru, which is what I will still do. I found cyl#1 like pictured. Whatever that thing is it is embedded into the piston in 2 pieces at 5 to 5:30 position...driven strait in! What it looks like is a needle from a bearing. What is it and where did it come from? Head  Piston#1 with 2 embedded pieces  Other cyls and pistons look good 
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captaindana
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Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 6:11pm |
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I am thinking this foreign object had to be dropped in through the injector hole 27 years ago???
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farmtoybuilder
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Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 6:33pm |
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Dang, thats one beat up piston! And i agree it had to been in there when assembled or through nozzle. Maybe a tip came off another nozzle at one time? Hard to tell but it sure did a number on it! Is the sleeve ok.
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captaindana
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Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 6:52pm |
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The sleeve has to be replaced.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 7:02pm |
OUCHY 
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Stan R
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Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 7:19pm |
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Valve looks offset. Worn guides or bent?
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captaindana
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Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 7:38pm |
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Oh, so my mechanic heard her run today and went home, telling me to take the head off and have the valves looked at. So this mess in cyl#1 really didn't have anything to do with her running incorrectly issues!
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Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 8:30am |
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Interesting looking piston -- the valves in first picture (right side) don't look to be seated properly. Whatever got into the piston may have also caused a valve issue. Nice to have a mechanic that makes "house calls" -- I'm looking for one of them fellers -LOL
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 9:34am |
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valves are fine.....pockets are made offset
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Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 10:44am |
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Thats weird, stuff like that only happens to me I thought...New sleeve and piston and I think itll be alright. Id replace the valves on # 1, keep us posted, good luck, Trev.
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 10:46am |
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I think that bit of steel is the internal valve bit of the injector. From an injector that broke. See he impression right next to where it finallt stuck in the piston, its pointed.
Gerald J.
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Jordan(OH)
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Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 11:57am |
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Seems that's what you get when you go and paint something. I know a guy who had a Oliver 1850 painted, shortly afterward injection pump needed pulled and rebuilt.
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TexasAllis
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Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 3:05pm |
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That must have made an awful noise.
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captaindana
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Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 3:40pm |
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Guys I dropped the head off to the guru, he will git er dun. Meantime I am somehow getting an original # 4022958 piston and #4023099 sleeve and rering the others; we should be good to growl again! It never made noise here...musta happened in it's pre 27 year hibernation days! Gerald I believe you are correct; thanks! I could hear the valces leaking so once they're corrected we shall see....still don't know why she starts to labor and knock and quit! My mech thought maybe the valves were floating and getting it out of time. He heard it...it didn't do this at first but lately every 10 minutes. Once I drop the pan we can check all the bearings. I have all the pan bolts out but need to jockey the wishbone anchor to drop pan! Thanks, Dana
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