XT/200 ??

All things being equal- hours, paint, tire condition, which would you guys prefer ?  

If it’s a series IIIXT then it will have the same reared as the 200. A few changes on the 200, short throw PD, grill, fuel system. Either one is a winner in my book. I personally like the long throw PD on my XT verses the 200.

200, heavier finals, housing and ring gear pinion.... pistons were different to prevent gaulding - (most have been changed by now)  20 % more cooling capacity and increased engine oil capacity. 200 hyd pump (same as late series III ) was much better.  The late 200 had a smoother shift in the pd via better shift valve. 200's had option of and most had 38" rear tires and larger front tire option.

What are the differences in the 190XT and 200 Brake Systems?

A 200 is the most refined version of the 190XT. Many improvements. The 7000 is the final revision of that basic powertrain, but is significantly different, it's basically in a class by itself. A late XT would perform like a 200 in the field. 

Anyone ever think about putting a 7000 drive train in a 200 ???

injpumpEd wrote: A 200 is the most refined version of the 190XT. Many improvements. The 7000 is the final revision of that basic powertrain, but is significantly different, it's basically in a class by itself. A late XT would perform like a 200 in the field.

 

DrAllis wrote: I've often thought about taking a maroon 7000 and grafting 200 Sheetmetal onto it. The length of the torque tube is exactly the same. The length of the rear end is too. I'd use 200 side frames, front axle and radiator/hood/dashboard/cowl/clutch/brake pedals /platform/console control. It could be done and would be a sleeper to an untrained eye. True "independent" PTO and three-speed Power Shift with a real road gear !! whooo hoooo  !!

 

Thanks for the reply Doc. Is it true that an "early" 7000 was not very desirable ?

I'm sorry, it wasn't meant on you Doc, I've read on other forums about the 7000 model specifically  .

From what I recall, same dry clutch as the xt/200, equal to or less hp than the above units, no parts interchanging  with other 7000 series ?? I have no proof of this, just what I recall reading on other forums .

The maroon 7000 used the same exact foot clutch as a 200, which was just fine. It wasn't just fine when it came to running a big round baler. Any dry clutch's life can never match the wet power director clutch life of a 190/200 tractor when stopping &  starting 100 times a day. The dry foot clutch never got adjusted to help increase its service life because most Owners were ignorant of keeping "free-play" in the clutch pedal, adding to possible shorter life.  I've never had one single 7000 power shift clutch failure in a maroon tractor, so that would encompass several dozens of those units in my service area over the years. As much as I dis-liked the tractor, they really had less issues than many of the larger models.  It's always funny to me how "some guy said" becomes truth when it really isn't.  I know lots of real truths about Deere tractors, but most brain-washed owners will never admit to them.

We had a Farm Sale at a Dairy last week where there were mostly older IHC tractors and one John Deere 100+ hp cab & loader, all were well used. The Deere guys were saying all the tractors sold very high but of course the JD was really a bargain, really cheap, they were all shaking their heads but I didn't see any of them bidding...Harvey

After operating dads older XT and my late 200, I'd never want to go back to the XT. I've got a factory cab with air that needs a little work but the heat works very well.

Again, 200 is just a refined 190XT. I still love my XT, I have no significant reason to trade for a 200. My neighbor has a gated 200 PD and honestly I like my long throw handle PD better. Its like comparing a 67 Camaro to a 69 Camaro...the 69 has hidden headlamps and a little smoother body line. Both really good cars, the 69 is a little more refined. Same with this scenario, both good tractors..200 is just a little more refined. The 4 pinion rear end od a 200 vs a early 2 pinion rear of a early XT is a significant upgrade. So that’s a big issue.