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Working on the John Deere 70
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    Posted: 25 Jun 2016 at 5:10pm
We were working on the John Deere 70 Rice last night and today
Got to love those southern tractors.

Decided to change out the water pump.
should have been an easy job.
6 bolts to take the pump out and put It back on.
I took the grill off so as to not have to work around the side of the grill.

when loosing up the bolts on the radiator side of the water pump.
trying to go about 1/4 turn tighten and then loosening some more and kept working so as not twist them off.
had to have one at the top that twisted off.

Tried the weld method but it just twist off again.
Trying to be careful about putting to much heat, since the gasket is right by that location.

Next method we used was to drill a hole in the cast to line up twisted bolt. Figure this would be faster because the more I would take this tractor apart more bolts would need to be drilled out.

We already had some bits that made to be longer.

work great and just tap out the hole.
Back together.









Also thought share picture of what can happen if you do not check to make sure the tractors over before hit the start button.
This is from the John Deere M it had a stuck exhaust valve and broke the top off the push rod.



The Valve was freed up and different push rod installed.
The M was last week fun.

Allis 190 rice needs a LP regulator.
That will be next weeks project to get running.
Does hit and Radiator is full of antifreeze.
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Wouldn't it have bee easier to have hoisted the rain cap up and slid another tractor under it? LOL     You can almost bet anything from down south is going to be problems, no matter how easy it looks to be to start with.
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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Grandpa bought a 70 diesel to plow beside dad on a D15 back when. Ide love to have one someday. The wide front makes yours even more unique.
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The John Deere 70 is a Rice/standard model.
Yes it needs sheet metal.
The transmission is quite and front end has little to no wear.
I Need to open up the Governor area to check a few bearings.
tractor runs good and will need the Carb cleaned and when decided to line some more gas this one will get done then also.
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Sorry for the dumb question but what do you mean about southern tractors? I'm from the north and I guess I don't understand.
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Originally posted by AllisFreak MN AllisFreak MN wrote:

Sorry for the dumb question but what do you mean about southern tractors? I'm from the north and I guess I don't understand.


That 70 is a rice and cane model found in the southern states where rice and cane are typically grown
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Originally posted by AllisFreak MN AllisFreak MN wrote:

Sorry for the dumb question but what do you mean about southern tractors? I'm from the north and I guess I don't understand.
Not sure if you mean about the model or the way Southern tractors are usually basket cases. The last post on the thread explained the model, but usually southern tractors are usually abused a lot more than tractors north of the Mason/Dixon line. From what I've seen on my travels, equipment up north is usually kept in a nice insulated barn, and will look brand new when it's 40 years old. (That may be a little exaggerated, but you get the point). Now down south, (Even here in OK I see this quite a bit) a lot of tractors sit outside, and....well...let's say a lot are only able to be started by the owner. LOL! One of my grandpa's is that way. He has a 2020 and 4020 JD, and both have a long starting procedure. Something like, "hook this wire to this terminal, but not for too long. Hurry and disconnect it after it starts, pull the cable by the dash to control the throttle because the regular throttle is broke, brakes don't work until you pump them 3 times, etc..." Just that kind of stuff. Cab tractors are a little worse because a lot (Granddad's 4430 included) have the doors removed. Because of this, the interiors tend to deteriorate quickly.  Again, a slight exaggeration, and this for sure ISN'T always the case, but it IS common.
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Another factor for southern tractors is the growing season can be long enough for double crops, so double the tractor field work per calendar year.

Gerald J.
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Large commercial outfits run large cane / rice farms .The work in these fields is rough .Plantation workers were hard on stuff .Employees do not care about equipment .Most farms up north are family oriented still so they keep watch of their stuff a lot closer.
You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails

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Thanks for the replies. Makes sense after you explain it. I guess things are different everywhere you go. Obviously I don't get out much.
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