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will 190 pull a #2018 disc |
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Sandknob ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Oblong, IL Points: 2456 |
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I have found a #2018 disc, but was wondering if a 190 (not xt) has the power to pull a 18' disc. I kind of figured it did, but wanted to double check. we have mostly sandy loam soil. The 190 has loaded rear tires and rear wheel weights.
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Adam
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John_SWPA ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Location: Burgettstown,PA Points: 148 |
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I pull 13 feet through hard clay in 6th gear all day long. I'd guess it wouldn't have a problem in sandy loam with an extra 5 feet.
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michaelwis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Wi Points: 8765 |
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We had a 190xt with a 13 foot disk . like John said no problem in 6th . but i wouldnt pull an 18 footer .. just my opinion
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StanOhio ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Port Clinton,Oh Points: 139 |
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Hi Adam, I pulled an 18ft ford disk with my old 190 XT and I have clay/muck, kind of heavy and hard. First time over was no problem but had to drop a gear or take some angle off the gangs to go over it again. I would try it, if it works, happy day, if not, sell or trade for a smaller one.
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DaveCinIN ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Kouts, IN Points: 629 |
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My 190XT gas pulled a 15 foot in 6th with no problem. I'm sure it would pull an 18.
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TedBuiskerN.IL. ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Davis, IL. Points: 1959 |
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It depends a lot on the disc. Don't put an 18' Kewanee 1010 hydrofold behind it, because it will park you even with duals. Been there, done that.
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BigBadAllis ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 90 |
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I think that will be way to much disc for your tractor. You want to be able to pull the disc in multiple conditions and have the angles on the gangs set for proper discing and be able to pull it at the depth that you need. If you're not discing deep enough or have it set properly, you're just wasting time and money. We have an AC 2500 21' centerfold and there's times when we wished we had more on it than the 8070.
Also if your pulling that old of a tractor to it's maximum limit all the time you will end up with a broken tractor and a large repair bill.
Best regards,
Jason
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Sandknob ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Oblong, IL Points: 2456 |
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If I take the wings off and take it down to 14' would that be a better match?
Thanks
Adam
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BigBadAllis ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 90 |
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Yes that's more realistic. We used to pull a 13' Oliver with the AC200
Jason
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DSeries4 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7445 |
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An XT would probably handle it (like some have said). But yours is not an XT, so I would doubt it.
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Tracy Martin TN ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10697 |
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I have a 15 foot AC disc in good shape I will sell. It does not fold. Tracy Martin
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Hurst ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213 |
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Why sell the disc? Just get a bigger tractor :). I bet a D21, 210, 220, or 7080 would look good pulling it to name a few.
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DanWi ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1900 |
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just leave the wings up and when you get in conditions where you can pull it or you get a bigger tractor there they are
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Dave King ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2009 Location: OK Points: 97 |
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It just depends on what you're wanting the disk to do. If you're just chopping up residue or leveling a seed bed 3 or 4 inches, no problem, but for primary tillage 6-8 inches, you'll need that D21 or 220. I think the 14' would be alot better.
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NickT(Ky) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elizabethtown, Points: 417 |
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We have a 15' allis man fold disc and you better have 100 h.p. in loose dirt (Ky clay) and a good set of tires. A 14' fixed wing would be better like the other guys said.
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Chad S ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: CENTERAL IOWA Points: 87 |
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I would think you would be ok. I have pulled our 25' 2500 disc once with our XT and boy was it a load in 6th gear but I only had 10 acres to do and that tracor was the only one not hooked to anything.
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