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    Posted: 14 Jan 2012 at 9:27pm
I found this while searching for my favorite allis tag lines. It kind of distracted me for a while.   Does anyone here have and experience with one of these??  Would be nice to park in the front yard to give the dog a rest!!


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Did they come in gray?
Since they want to remove Liberty,

Shouldn't they be called "Regressives"?
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PO 1 would really stand out on the battle field. Not all ideas are good ones.
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Originally posted by Unit3 Unit3 wrote:

PO 1 would really stand out on the battle field. Not all ideas are good ones.

It's hard to say if Persian orange would be a bad idea or not.  Just watch Peter Griffin's logic in this clip!!!!  Could confuse the enemy!  LOL

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The Ontos (Greek for "the thing") project was created to be an air transportable tank-destroyer capable of being lifted by the cargo aircraft of the 1950s. This limited it to a weight between 10 and 20 metric tons, the only other limitation to the design being that it had to use the six-cylinder engine then widely used in the Army's GMC trucks. Allis-Chalmers was awarded the contract on August 12, 1955, for 297 vehicles.

Allis-Chalmers' first vehicle, completed in 1952, was based on the running gear of the M56 Scorpion light anti-tank vehicle. The vehicle mounted a cast steel turret with two arms holding three rifles each. This early model could traverse the turret only about 15 degrees. A second prototype used a new suspension system including new tracks, and a newer turret with about 40 degrees traverse. Only eighteen rounds for the main guns could be carried inside the vehicle due to limited space. Four of the rifles also had 50-caliber spotting rifles attached, firing a round that flew like the 106 mm round and gave off a puff of smoke on impact with the target. This meant that the 106 mm recoilless rifles were lined up with the target, and then they would be fired. A single .30 caliber M1919A4 machine gun was also carried for anti-infantry use.

The vehicle was taken to the Aberdeen testing facility where single rifles had been tested. When all six weapons were fired at once, the back blast from the firing knocked bricks out of a nearby building and knocked the rear windows out of several cars. The prototype and testing stage was completed by 1955, at which point the Army canceled its order. As an anti-tank vehicle the Ontos had several problems, including a lack of ammunition, a very high profile for such a small vehicle, and the need for the crew to exit the vehicle in order to re-load the guns, making them obvious targets for snipers. Although the Army canceled their order, the Marine Corps were desperate for any anti-tank vehicles they could get, and ordered 297. Production ran from 1955 through 1957. The first vehicle accepted by the Marine Corps was on 31 October 1956.

Several variants were also studied. The Utility Vehicle, Tracked, Infantry, T55 was a light APC, but only two versions of the prototype were built. This proved utterly impractical due to the limited room inside, carrying only five infantry and forcing the driver to lie prone. A "stretched" version known as the Utility Vehicle, Tracked, Infantry, T56 was also built, and while it held a complete eight-man team, their equipment had to be carried on the outside. Neither was considered very useful.

In 1960 there was a brief study made to replace the Ontos's 106 mm rifles with a new 105 mm design that included a re-loading system similar to that on a revolver. This project was not accepted. However another upgrade was, replacing the GMC engine with a newer Chrysler 361 in³, V8 engine. Of the 297 vehicles accepted by the Marines, only 176 were converted between 1963 to 1965. This newest version of the Ontos was named Rifle, Multiple 106 mm, Self-propelled, M50A1.

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Thanks for the info, but my wife will not be happy, now I'm going to go search for the  report on the ontos. One of my co-workers ran a military wrecker and tells how he had to go get the same one several times, for engine issues and they were not as easy to switch engines on as the tanks that he drug back in.  
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Originally posted by JohnGinNC JohnGinNC wrote:

Did they come in gray?
 
They were made in Milwaukee. Blue was the only option.
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Originally posted by GBACBFan GBACBFan wrote:

Originally posted by JohnGinNC JohnGinNC wrote:

Did they come in gray?
 
They were made in Milwaukee. Blue was the only option.
 
   The Ontos, along with the M6, were built at LaPorte.
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Fred has one of those he keeps trained out the door when Harv & I visit!
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There's an Ontos tank on display at the Rock Island Arsenal in Rock Island, IL.  Well worth the trip.  Mitch & Barb in West Michigan
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The company I drive for delivers fuel to the arsenal, Will have to beg and get the next one. thanks
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The BIG question is wether it was snap-coupler or three-point....
If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!
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I could also see that wheelly bars should be a must. I could see it rolling over backwards if the guns were fired while going uphill. Then there is that (*) in square box on the side. It makes a great target for the bad boys on the other side.
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Rumor has it the real reason the Ontos was canned was because of the poor performance of it custom designed Ammo:
 
 
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