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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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Hear good things about White Planters. What is the beginning model numbers or series where the "good ones" start if there is such a thing? What are the weak points to look for if buying used? I hear the meters are "simple, reliable, and accurate". What do you need to be able to plant both corn and soybeans with them?
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Gregor ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prague, Ne Points: 305 |
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Not sure your budget or how many rows, but I'd start with a 6100 series and newer. 5100 was a lighter planter if you No till farm. To change from corn to beans, remove bolt from plate, swap plates and tighten bolt down. Real simple. To run planter, do you have triple hydraulics or you can use a PTO pump to run the orbital that supplies air. Takes like 3 or 4 gal/min for hydr on the air side, so really not a big deal if using older tractors. Biggest thing is like any planter on wear--parallel links/blades etc. Very popular planter in my area. Kinze is probably the most used followed by white around my neck of the woods. I prefer the packing wheels to be the double press type and not the single type. Again my preference and I have schlagel packing wheels on. I also custom for a guy with his planter and has a kinze. I also wanted to try a kinze, but after using his, I'm staying white. You don't use graphite or talc in the white planter, and you sure get dirty quick with graphite which you need graphite with the finger pickup of the kinze. Everything is black and hate getting that in the cab and on the steering wheel.
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Sherman Farms ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Centerburg, OH Points: 1657 |
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We have a 6106 six row planter with dry fertilizer bought new in 1998, planted at least 250 acres a year since then. We have spent less than $50.00 total on the meters. The usual wear and tear on disc openers and no-till blades and a few bearings are the only things we have had to buy. This planter cost $19,000 new in 1998. We bought a new White 23 row 15 inch bean planter with all the bells and whistles for $130,000 in 2019. Both planters do a great job of placing the seed, where and how you want it.
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B, C, RC, 3 wc,2 wd,3 wd45, d15, d17, d19, d21, 190, 440, 7040, 918 backhoe, 12 roto balers, 7 60 combines, 40, 66,2 72,90 super, sp100, Gleaner E, F3, 3 L2, R62, and much more
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29792 |
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I have a 5100 6 row and it's a fine planter but the 5100 sucks to get at the seed sensors and I hate the seed boxes and the covers and emptying seed from them and there is so darn much hitch weight with the White 5100. The Deere 7000 I think is easiest to set population but takes just a bit more maintenance. The cable used to lift the markers on the old 4 row was a bad idea from Deere. It would break every so often and was a pain to replace and both the Deere and White would pick up stones between the wheels and units. White had guards you could add to stop that, not sure if Deere did. The White did it far more often. Between the Deere and White and after running both I think I'd rather have the Deere over the White but people have their own preference.
Not that you asked but since I've only ever run 3 different planters I'll say just a bit about the Allis 330 with #78 units, I think the Allis 330 was simpler than the White accept the depth gauge wheels were harder to set and not independent but it is easier to set population and get to the seed sensor and loosen a hand wheel and the seed box comes off for emptying the seed out. Changing the seed disc is easier too than the White. No wrench needed. Just turn off the little hand wheel and swap and then replace the hand wheel. I did like my 330.
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victoryallis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2877 |
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One with a bounding Deere on the side. Allis/Agco made great tractors and combines but wouldn’t plant with anything short of a Deere or Kinze.
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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Thanks for the comments guys.
Not sure what I'm going to do yet. I have a Deere planter now, and it is in pretty good shape for it's age, but it needs some TLC and needs an upgrade in it's seed meters, and that's going to cost. Have been considering going to liquid fertilizer vs dry. Also, need a combine in a year or 2, so would like to match rows. My current planter is an 8 row, and has that Wetherell (sp?) end tow hitch, which does the job, but to be honest is a bit of a PITA. So....just looking. Thanks. |
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bigal121892 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Location: Nebraska Points: 808 |
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The 6100 series planters have quite a few more improvements over the 5100's. The 8100 series had more improvements, but I think the biggest jump was between the 5100's, and the 6100's. Another one to look at, would be the CaseIH 1200 series planters.
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AC7060IL ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3466 |
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Tbone95, what model is your JD planter and what does it have for seed meters?
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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My planter is. JD 7000, and has the plate meters. Am planning on( I think) Precision Planting retrofit.
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ACFarmer ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Ohio Points: 745 |
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We have an 8200 series White planter, Id put it up against any other brand of planter. I have a Kinze as well for beans, and if the white was set up for 15" rows I'd use it instead.
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Making a living farming with and working on Allis Equipment
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brodersen ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 2020 Location: charter oak, ia Points: 27 |
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i will go along with the 8200 good planter .
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victoryallis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2877 |
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Find a wing fold finger pick up 700 or 7200 |
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Alex (wi) ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jul 2010 Points: 167 |
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I also agree the White is just as good or better than any planter out there. The air disk system is much less maintenance than finger pick up. It’s super easy to change out seed in a White, I can’t say that for the other brands.
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Leon B MO ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Old Monroe, Mo Points: 2178 |
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We have a 12 row flex, center pivot Kinze 2300 for corn. Our bean planter is a Kinze 40" 2300 center pivot, flex with the 23 units spaced at 21 inches. The units are identical to the JD 7000. We like them both. Not sure I could ask for a better pair of planters for what we have in them.
Leon B MO
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Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".
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GM Guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 31 Jul 2012 Location: NW KS / S.C. ID Points: 1985 |
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White air planters started back with the 3000 series, then 5000, 6000, 8000, and now 9000 series.
5000s were probably the first "good" ones, but they are a little too "unique" and finding attachments is harder, and they are not nearly as good for no-till. 6000 is what I'd recommend. Its the first "modern" series, can share attachments with its newer siblings (and in the case of row cleaners, other brands as well) and is more refined than the 5K, and doesnt cost much more. Quick story about the White pressure meter, a buddy who runs a 8000 bulk fill (first a 8516, now a 8824) sent his son to a Precision Planting clinic with a random meter off the planter. Son calls over the lunch break: "Dad, this thing is only at 95 percent singulation, I think we need to upgrade" My buddy says: "Bull$&!t, stay there, im coming in" grabs some cleanout seed from the year before, heads to town, fills his meter, plays with the air pressure, and gets it hammering out 99.1-99.6 singulation, and the best part? Brushes are 5 seasons old. A White isnt as idiotproof to set as other brands, but does a great job. Way simpler and lower upkeep too. |
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Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.
If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
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