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AaronSEIA 
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 11:38am |
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Putting a "new" engine in my D17. Where do you draw the line for preventative parts replacement? Clutch and ring gear seem obvious just to avoid another 6 hour tear down. Do you do all radiator hoses and fan belt? They all look ok and had no issues before. I don't really mind doing the replacing, but my list (outside of replacing the tack and cable that didn't work) is up to almost $175 not counting the clutch. Gaskets are a must, but should I replace $60 worth of belts and hoses "just because"?
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PaulB
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 11:42am |
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Your logic of the clutch is right on. Anything that can be replaced later without a major tear down is on my "could wait til needed later" list However I do replace a lot of things I could do later just because it's easier to do without a lot of other things in the way.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 1:32pm |
I would do the hoses and thermostat just to save having to replace the anti freeze again
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 6:08pm |
See the post, "Don't forget to replace the throw out bearing"! 
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AaronSEIA
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 8:02pm |
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Got Rick Corder covering the clutch. Getting a new throwout and pilot bearing too. Clutch shaft seals were recommended to add to the list as well. Whats another $30.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 8:11pm |
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Well, its one of those spend on it now, or spend on it later. Greatly depends on how old the parts are. When it comes to hoses, personally, I don't mess around. Hoses, belts thermo I would change if old or original. You could be out working this summer in the hot weather and psssssst goes the hose and a pinhole has antifreeze everywhere! They always go at the worst time. If you're already there, and you have to put it back together yet, I would add the new coolant parts and any belts and its a done deal! Should be good to go for a loooong time... Just my 2 cents.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 9:21pm |
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Funny story about a hose...when I first got my 8N, I think the original radiator hoses were on it. They were really cracked and rotten looking. If you squeezed the bottom one, a little antifreeze would ooze and dribble out of it. But when running, nothing would ever leak! Really weird how that worked, but those hoses were the first things to be replaced!
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 9:34pm |
For me it depends on how reliable you need the tractor to be. If it's a unit that needs to be ready all day every day, then fix it right, spare no expense. If its a tractor that can be replaced pretty quickly, then a hose, belt, battery or tire can be fixed on a rainy day. We have a backup tractor for most situations. Leon B MO
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 9:47pm |
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When I had a head gasket put in my 17 diesel I chose not to replace the rad hoses. Big mistake, bottom 1 blew on the way home, cost me an complete overhaul on top of another head gasket.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 10:20pm |
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Not sure which series of D17 you have. On my 170 the hydraulics are live, running on the side of clutch housing. I think Series 4 D17 uses the same pump. There is an o ring on the hydraulic pump input shaft that should be replaced when you split the tractor. Real pain to have to split it to replace that later.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2018 at 12:54am |
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when I re-do or have someone else re-do a motorized piece of equipment, I don't want it to break down when i'm using it, if it does I figger I just wasted money on what was just done and now will be wasting more time trying to finish the job I was doing! if it's broke or about to break....fix it. if it's been broke along time and hasn't bothered you running it...pass on it! if you want to sell it and something doesn't work right? do you think you'll be able to sell it or have to take a deep discounted amount? less than it is really worth?
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Posted: 18 Mar 2018 at 8:46am |
 Steve in NJ wrote:
Well, its one of those spend on it now, or spend on it later. Greatly depends on how old the parts are. When it comes to hoses, personally, I don't mess around. Hoses, belts thermo I would change if old or original. You could be out working this summer in the hot weather and psssssst goes the hose and a pinhole has antifreeze everywhere! They always go at the worst time. If you're already there, and you have to put it back together yet, I would add the new coolant parts and any belts and its a done deal! Should be good to go for a loooong time... Just my 2 cents.
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Right on Steve. Adding another $150 to an engine rebuild saves down time and frustration down the road.
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AaronSEIA
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Posted: 18 Mar 2018 at 2:21pm |
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Thanks guys. She's getting about $325 worth of parts tossed at her, plus the clutch work from Rick. Not how I wanted to spend a chunk of my tax return, but just as well do it right. Buddy of mine is letting me borrow my old WD I sold him till I get my D17 back on her feet.
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