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What's fair market value on a few A-C tractors

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    Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 5:22pm
I was buy a mans place that had a few tractors that he was going to get rid of and I was wondering what should I offer he won't give me a price to even go from because he said he doesn't know what they are worth and none of the tractors run.
1. 185 crop hustler
2. 180 landhandler
3. 185
4. 200
5. 190xt that is partially painted and has no tires and in pieces
Any thought on what to give will be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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I really dont have a clue on this size tractors. But I would hazard a guess that non running big iron like this might be at $1000 each but maybe consider the rubber condition as that can be half or more of the tractor cost. Engine work one one of these maybe $1500 to $2000????? Just guesses here. I am sure the experts in these will be along shortly.
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My recommendation would be to spend some time with each tractor to go over them. You may be looking at a part tractor or a real gem with some minor mechanical issue. I wish I could go with you because I love these series of tractors. They were all great tractors. I would be asking questions of why they don’t run? How long have they been sitting? Surely he has some idea of what happened to each one. I would take some tools along, a battery. If you can get to the crank shaft to see if the engine is loose,that would be my first step after you give it a good visual check. What condition is the sheet metal and tractor in? Dings, dents, damage, excessive wear, show an owner that may have abused the tractor, not properly maintained it. Where they kept inside or outside? Some pictures of each would be a great help. You may have just hit the jack pot!
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What series 190XT? That’s really important as a series III is worth way more money than a series I in my opinion. Heavier rear end was the biggest gain. Let me give you an example on a 190XT series II that I bought. Running tractor, not a gear jumper, fairly new tires all the way around, 90 percent left. Possible clutch issue as it slipped in 7th gear upon take off. Ran well although I didn’t have something to pull. Dead batteries, had to be jumped started. Sheet metal had some damage, grill was beat up. He would not go below $3,500. I probably should have walked away but I had been searching for several years for one. You just don’t find them here on the east coast very often.
I have quite a bit of money in it, as I went thru it pretty well. Clutch, fuel pump rebuild, brakes, electrical wiring repair, all oils, filters changed. Complete sand blasting and paint job. So much more to list, but I don’t regret it one bit. The 190 XT is everything that I hoped it would be. I love farming with it, showing it, heck just driving it down the driveway with my grandson aboard. Nothing like hearing him ask, pawpaw, can we go for a ride on the XT? No way am I going to say no to that. Made that 9 months of hard work worth every minute and penny of it!
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A few things to consider.Are you buying them to keep/use,resell,part out etc?
I'd tally up what would be a reasonable price for the parts I can see weights,sheet metal
tires and wheels,etc.See if the motors turn over and look for any obvious damage to engines like a cracked block,check oil and coolant.Figure they all have transmission issues
Then a big factor.How bad do you want them?I usually figure parts at reasonable retail value and then bid 1/2 of that unless there is something on the tractors that i need myself.Also don't plan on a quick turnover.
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If you can, drain a little oil out of the drain plug.  If it comes out green  .  .  .  well you know!


If they don't crank over with a new set of batteries it may just be the starter locked ih the ring gear.

Probably, in my opinion the engine and tires/rims would be the big cost items. 

Not running and no way of telling, they would be worth scrap price.  I.M.H.O.
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Originally posted by john(MI) john(MI) wrote:

If you can, drain a little oil out of the drain plug.  If it comes out green  .  .  .  well you know!


If they don't crank over with a new set of batteries it may just be the starter locked ih the ring gear.

Probably, in my opinion the engine and tires/rims would be the big cost items. 

Not running and no way of telling, they would be worth scrap price.  I.M.H.O.


For what scrap price is these days a good grille could be worth more than that so
scrap price is not realistic unless they are totally trashed and then they still probably
would be worth a lot more than scrap.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking around scrap price because the unknowns could become costly
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Odd that he has that many tractors that are down/broke...

Love to see some pictures
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Originally posted by Charlie175 Charlie175 wrote:

Odd that he has that many tractors that are down/broke...

Love to see some pictures


Back in the 1960's and 70's there was a farm down in Suffolk VA that ran a lot of
WD and WD45 tractors Patterson the AC dealer down at Farfield had a connection with them he must have gotten over a dozen broke down tractors from them I went down with my truck and trailer and got 2 WD-45's.Apparently when the tractors quit in the field they just drug them over to the side and left them.Picked up a D10 hooked to a two bottom plow with a hole in the block out of a field down around Chase City VA been sitting there about 5 years the fellow said.
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Those are kinda popular tractors yet for the small farms/ hobby farms ; pictures and some more detailed info would be good, where are they ?
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