What type of Paint gun do you use?

I am thinking the same thing Anthony - dmaybe retire the antique Binks.

I think the idea of the cup liners that I see harbor freight advertize may be the cats meow.

The guy who did all the painting at the Chevy dealer I was at said pretty much what Dick says. Walt told me once that he couldn't see any difference in results between an expensive De Vilbiss gun and the cheap Harbor Freight gun. Now when the HF gun needs rebuilt, just toss it and get a new one. At that time Walt had been painting cars for 25 years.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford

I have several that have accumulated over the years. A Binks Model 7, Harbor Freight Siphon Feed, HF Gravity Feed HVLP, HF Gravity Feed Touchup, and a couple others that I don't know the name of. I mostly use the HF HVLP and the HF Touchup. They seem to have less overspray. Have used the HF ones for enamel and base coat/clear coat and they do fine. At my level, I can't see paying $300 for a paint gun. Practice, practice, practice, works for me. FWIW :)

Edited by Osage_Orange - 07 Aug 2011 at 9:48pm

Why is there never time to do it right the first time, but always time to go back and fix it?

Harbor fright gravity feed low pressure. 14$

Bob, North Carolina

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It may be my painting style but I find the binks no 7 syphon spray gun lays down a nice job when using industrial tractor single stage paints. I find the hvlp does a better job on the automitive 2 to 3 stage paints. paint preperation and a paint booth also goes a long way.Jmho

Edited by mlpankey - 07 Aug 2011 at 12:39pm

so wich paint system do you plan to use 2 stage or 3 stage.

Orange Blood wrote:

OK,

back to the question at hand.

For under the tractor, shooting up, which style, gravity, or suction??? That's all I want to know. Respectfully forget about the damn cost

Suction.

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mlpankey wrote:

Orange Blood wrote:

OK,

back to the question at hand.

For under the tractor, shooting up, which style, gravity, or suction??? That's all I want to know. Respectfully forget about the damn cost

automotive 2 stage or 3 stage or single stage tractor paint ?answere the damn question.

Maybe, I am not very good at asking the question, but I am sorry you still haven't answered what I am looking for.

So here it is, as plain as I can make it. When any type of paint gun, shooting any type of paint upwards, where the gun is below the paint stream at a severe angle, which works best a suction or gravity? If the gun is half full, I have to think the suction will stay in the paint longer, since most of the gravity guns lay the can back toward the operator, the paint would fall away from the opening faster than the suction gun, but I don't know, that's the whole reason for the question of you who have been there.

Forget about the type of paint, the cost of the gun, whether it's HVLP or not, just the location of the paint sorce, vs. the angle of the spray

Still in use:
HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7

That's not a half bad idea, it never occured to me, my D17 rear end, will be heavier, but I will think about it.

Still in use:
HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7

Orange Blood wrote:

mlpankey wrote:

Orange Blood wrote:

OK,

back to the question at hand.

For under the tractor, shooting up, which style, gravity, or suction??? That's all I want to know. Respectfully forget about the damn cost

automotive 2 stage or 3 stage or single stage tractor paint ?answere the damn question.

Maybe, I am not very good at asking the question, but I am sorry you still haven't answered what I am looking for.

So here it is, as plain as I can make it. When any type of paint gun, shooting any type of paint upwards, where the gun is below the paint stream at a severe angle, which works best a suction or gravity? If the gun is half full, I have to think the suction will stay in the paint longer, since most of the gravity guns lay the can back toward the operator, the paint would fall away from the opening faster than the suction gun, but I don't know, that's the whole reason for the question of you who have been there.

Forget about the type of paint, the cost of the gun, whether it's HVLP or not, just the location of the paint sorce, vs. the angle of the spray

think about it .are you asking if a gravity feed gun will defy gravity?

Edited by mlpankey - 07 Aug 2011 at 1:01pm

mlpankey wrote:

Orange Blood wrote:

mlpankey wrote:

Orange Blood wrote:

OK,

back to the question at hand.

For under the tractor, shooting up, which style, gravity, or suction??? That's all I want to know. Respectfully forget about the damn cost

automotive 2 stage or 3 stage or single stage tractor paint ?answere the damn question.

Maybe, I am not very good at asking the question, but I am sorry you still haven't answered what I am looking for.

So here it is, as plain as I can make it. When any type of paint gun, shooting any type of paint upwards, where the gun is below the paint stream at a severe angle, which works best a suction or gravity? If the gun is half full, I have to think the suction will stay in the paint longer, since most of the gravity guns lay the can back toward the operator, the paint would fall away from the opening faster than the suction gun, but I don't know, that's the whole reason for the question of you who have been there.

Forget about the type of paint, the cost of the gun, whether it's HVLP or not, just the location of the paint sorce, vs. the angle of the spray

think about it .are you asking if a gravity feed gun will defy gravity?

Exactly, that's what I don't know, how far back can you tilt the gravity gun, before the paint falls away from the pickup? Can it shoot near vertically up? I know that too far up on a suction gun will run out of paint too? So which is better?

Edited by Orange Blood - 07 Aug 2011 at 1:04pm

Still in use:
HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7

Orange Blood, I am not a pro painter. My Waggoner HVLP - HLVP? spray gun has a angled suction tube (30 degree bend on it?) inside its 1.5 qt container(cup). I have had good luck in just turning the suction tube towards the back of the gun's cup for spraying upwards or overhead. It will work just fine for just over half the volume of the container before it begins to sputter out of paint. Depends on the angle of spraying.

If I am going to be spraying downward (like over a car hood) position, I just turn the suction tube toward the front of the sprayers cup.

Dick, I like your idea of turning the piece over for a greatest positioning. I do that a lot when welding/fabricating if it is possible. Nothing like being comfortable at work....

Guys, I don't want anyone thinking I am mad at them, I was just frustrated that the topic whent were I didn't need it to. Everyone offers great ideas, and for that I am thankful, but my mind is made up about the HVLP, and the cost $50-100, I just wanted info on suction or gravity, since I had no exeriance with a gravity gun. Your info was helpful, and I am sorry to any of you who might think I was being childish, it was not my intent.

Still in use:
HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7

I am very intrigued by that idea, I think I will go do some measuring, to see if I can do that with the 17 right now!!!

Still in use:
HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7

This is my line-up, all from Harbor Freight. I think the trick is getting the mixture right but I'm no painter. The gravity feed came with a tip for primer that works pretty good for the epoxy primer if there is such a thing. I got the one on the right just for what you are talking about. I used an emailed coupon and it was about $40, I don't remember what I paid for the filter/regulator that I got to go with it. I did the under side of the WC with the gravity feed one, wasn't easy and had paint come out of the top a couple of times trying to get to tight places. I do use the liners in the left one. I like the idea of the disposable tips, it seems I spend more time cleaning my paint guns than I do painting.

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