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What tools to get to change tires?
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Jacob (WI,ND) View Drop Down
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    Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 12:35pm
I know this has been covered before, but searching this site wasn't helping much.
What tools do you all recommend to change rear tractor tires?

A little back story....
This past weekend I went home to WI to get a little time in with the family and tractors.  Dad and I worked on Wayne.  He had fixed one of the original rear rims (welded in a new piece from a junk rim to fix rotten valve stem area) painted it up and brought it to the tire guys to have old tire mounted with new tube and put what fluid we had back in it and then top it off with new fluid.  Ended up costing about 135$. 
All was fine and good we thought.  Got all the eccentrics cleaned up and working and mounted rim to hub and all back on tractor.   Still all seemed good.  Did some other stuff (I'll make a separate post about that, more questions) and finally got to using the tractor to move some dirt with the back blade.

Later in the day I looked at the rim and noticed that Dad's welds around his patch had all cracked. crap.....  must have not gotten good welds, he was pretty upset.

So, I realize that none of this is the tire guys fault, but I don't want to spend another chunk of change to do this all over again.  
Dad found a buddy at work (that is a better welder) that agreed to weld it up this time.

So my question is, what type of tools should I invest in to change tires?
I know I'll be changing many more in the future, so I don't mind spending some money on tools, but don't want to spend a fortune either.

the way to go?  Where to buy /what brands do you recommend?

How do you all drain and refill your fluid?  Would a regular garden hose type pump work to fill the fluid?  I realize you have to have some type of air release valve as you pump to release the pressure.

Looking to advice and tricks.

What type of tire irons do you recommend?  Or is our arsenal of crowbars and charlie bars good enough?

We are just frustrated with this setback, and having to redo what we just did.  Looking for some advice and encouragement.  Thanks!
Jacob Swanson
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This looks like the ticket for filling....

Or this?
But this would not work with normal valves, correct?


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Looks like the Gempler's fluid adapter will work good. I use a hi-lift jack and a chain for a bead breaker, then several heavy duty tire irons to remove the tire from the rim.
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I have a cousin in the tractor/truck tire business and he has a large slide hammer. It's probably 5ft long and fairly heavy. It only took two knocks per side to break loose the original tires on my Oliver 60. Then I'd suggest some large tire spoons to pry them off and on. I've never used anything like the one you linked to but I've heard they work ok.
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I use a tire bead hammer, that looks like a sledge on one end and a big wedge on the other, plus a regular tire hammer, 2 if not 3 tire irons, and lots of tire lube. I have also used pry bar irons that major tool companies sell, that are about a foot or 18 inches long. I used the valve you showed, for taking out and putting in the fluid, and a little pump that fits on a drill for the fluid.
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Duck bill tire hammer (same as used on truck tires) couple tire irons for truck tubless tires , 18"-24" or longer . Tire lube. 
 Getting the fluid out is no problem, jack up reactor and with valve stem at top release the air, remove the schrader valve from the tube at the fluid coupling. Attach hose and then rotate valve to bottom let down jack , fluid forced out of tire, raise /turn to bleed air back into tire and rotate and lower , several times and fluid is out so tire can be broken down either on machine or laying flat to use hammer . 
 For filling any small pump will work just fill with valve at top and again let air out that might be trapped in tube as fluid is pumped in . 
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I have a pair of the G64521 38" x 3/4" tire irons that I got from Gemplers many years ago. They work great, and they are made in the USA.
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I use truck tubeless tire bars to mount and dismount the tires.  A bead breaking hammer head and a sledge to hit it as I usually do the tires on the tractor and being on 30" rows there is not a lot of room between the tire inner bead and the tractor rear end/ 3 pt area. 
I bought a cheap 1/4 horsepower all plastic sump pump for pumping the fluid in and use a short hose from the filling tool from Gemplers to direct the fluid into a pail with the pump in that I usually have a few 45 gallon drums that it is pumping into and then just drop the pump in the drums to put the fluid back in the tire with.
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I have the Gemplers water valve fitting and it works good, the one with the button on the side for venting. The self-venting one takes longer to fill and it's not a big deal to shut off the water once in a while and vent some air.
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You can buy tire tools online at www.millertire.com
 
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