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What should I charge to square bale? |
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29792 |
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It's about 4 acres. My tractor, my baler, my wagons and me driving the tractor. They provide the labor on the rack. Thanks. Lonn
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Dans 7080 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Points: 1146 |
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A few years ago I cut raked and baled on the ground for $1 per bale. He changed his mind and wanted it put in the barn but he coverd the extra cost of fuel and labor. I might have been high but he was happy.
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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Ten or fifteen years ago, a quarter a bale was typical. But with hay worth a lot more and with tractor fuel costing a lot more, 2 or 3 times that price seems more workable.
One place to check, is that extension in nearly every state has an annual publication on custom farming rates and cost of machinery operation. Then add a bit of contingency for flats, getting stuck in the mud, and broken equipment. Gerald J. |
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duckwhacker ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Feb 2011 Location: Olive Branch, M Points: 13 |
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In my neck of the woods, MS, a square bale sells for 5.00-6.00 per bale. There are a couple ways to determine your labor price. Take the total amount of bales (maybe projected bales) per day and divide it into thirds. One third being your price. Another is to take into account the fuel, insurance (if needed), and come up w/ an hourly or daily figure that you feel justifies your time and efforts. You could also charge as a rental company does and price the job based off of each piece of equipment that you place on the job. A field laborer down here makes at most 12.00 per hour as a hired worker. Hope this presents some ideas for you to determine your price.
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LannyMTN ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 22 Aug 2010 Location: Middle TN Points: 120 |
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$1 a bale here. I cut and raked, he furnished and drove the D-14 and baler. Oh, I almost forgot, we furnished a bale of twine, also.
Lanny Mid TN
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Nathan (SD) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Day County SD Points: 1274 |
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I have been paying 55 cents a bale. My windrows. Just him baling, dropped on ground. Around 300 bales a year. I round bale the rest.
Old NH 269 baler. I would pay more if the bales were guarenteed to be more uniform.
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JohnCinMd ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Westminster, Md Points: 1438 |
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Here it an average of 85 cents a bale for just baling. To mow, rake, & bale it jumps up to $4.35 a bale. Got this off of the extention service site.
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macec3(TX) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 518 |
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Here in east Texas, advertised rates vary from $1.50 to $2.25 per square bale.
This is cutting, raking and baling by the baler contractor. Hauling by the hay owner. |
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BobHnwO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Jenera Ohio Points: 693 |
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Good neighbor,I just take a donation cause I love bailing,about 200 to 400 bales of straw!
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Why do today what you can put off til tomorrow.
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Stan R ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 03 Dec 2009 Location: MA Points: 969 |
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We get $1.25 per bale to bale plus $65/ hr to cut, kick, rake.
Labor picking up: don't do that so unsure. I think this averages out to a couple bucks a bale which is about 1/2 of what a bale costs. Sometimes less, sometimes more. I consider this the fairest so if it rains, we don't spend time kicking/ raking over and over and not get payed. PS: we let the owner tell us when to cut- we let them be the weatherman, not us. |
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29792 |
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Great info guys. This helps. Thanks.
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naylorbros ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: West Jordan, UT Points: 104 |
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HI!! wrong area of the country but these numbers are off of the Utah State Extension service site. These numbers are the average. $16.23 per acre for swathing (one machine that cuts conditions and windrows). 91 cents a bale to bale for small bales, and 66 cents a bale to haul and stack, that would be with a New Holland bale wagon. I wish there were more custom hay work around here, most of the ground is growing houses. I try and use the state wide average as a starting place adjusting is according to the person that I am working with. I will make changes for the financial condition of the owner, travel distance, size of the job, how rough the ground is, and how the person is to work with on this job and when I need something. If they give me no break they receive no break and the price will go above the state with average. The age and speed of your equipment should also be a factor in what you charge. Our old Deere 224 WS baler will walk away easily from the Allis 442, but the new Challenger SB 36 (Hesston 4590) will walk away from the Deere. The Deere is kept in reserve and the Allis is gone.
Thanks Ken
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JoeO(CMO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Cent Missouri Points: 2694 |
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Here is a .pdf file from MU. I use this to know what to charge or what I can expect to pay others for a "trade" rate. |
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Dans 7080 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Points: 1146 |
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Heres the Ohio State University fact sheet.
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KenBWisc ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Fall Creek, WI Points: 1183 |
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While the Custom Rate Guides are excellent information keep in mind they are the result of a survey of custom operator's charges NOT what it costs to do the job. Very, very few farmers charge enough to cover their costs.
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'34 WC #629, '49 G, '49 B, '49 WD, '62 D-19, '38 All Crop 60 and still hunting!
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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But wouldn't most Allis collectors pay for the privilege of exercising their machinery?
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JohnCO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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I charge $1.75 per bale to swath (Hesston 1365), double rake into a 24' windrow (Kuhn rotary rake, bale (Hesston 4600) and stack within a mile (NH 1049 SP bale wagon). This is about the going rate in this area of Colorado. If the field is small, rough or the owner not pleasant to work with, the price goes up.
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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
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bill2260 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Points: 215 |
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http://www.extension.iastate.edu/agdm/crops/pdf/a3-10.pdf
Above is the web site for iowa custom rates. Wouldn't recomend using the university of maryland for much. They are too worried about the chesepeake bay and not nearly enough with agriculture, which is the number one industry in our state. Bill |
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Teddy (punchie) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Location: Beaver PA Points: 258 |
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Just to bale to field $ 0.75 a bale. $1.00 a bale if to wagon plus labor working the rack. Haybine 17.50 an acre. Tedding 13.00 an acre. Raking 13.00 an acre. Price to Cut, Tedd, Rake, Bale. and Store is 2.75 a bale 35 to 40 pounds. Out of pocket cost this year to Cut, Tedd, Rake, Bale is around $ 1.35 a bale. We average about 3,000 - 4,000 bales a year custom work.
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Ac D-19, a Number of WD's, One WD45, Two 444 balers, Ac plows and etc.
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29792 |
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I got the field baled yesterday. I mentioned 40¢ a bale. Probably should have asked for more but I'm satisfied. It was about 300 bales. They were going to count them when they unload them (no counter on my old 270) so I haven't gotten anything yet. They were so unprepared for the work it takes even for 300 bales and the space they told me would hold 500 bales would be lucky to hold one wagon load. I hope they got the wagons unloaded last night cause it looks like rain this morning or it did at 4:30 this mourning.
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