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The product they use here to kill volunteer RR corn in soybeans is called Fusilade.
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There is Fusilade, select max, and some others
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i should not weigh in,because i'm kind of a newbie here,but  i would not tolerate a farm manager like that. Advertise your farm for cash rent. You have the right to spell out the farming practices,and i'm pretty sure they will find a way to make a profit.Tell that s o b manager to hit the road,and don'tell him why. You deserve better.

















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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JohnCO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 7:32pm
Shameless's problem is that the farm manager is also a stakeholder, aka brother.
Ain't that right Dale?


Edited by JohnCO - 31 Jan 2019 at 7:33pm
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Shamless,i apologize for my comments about your farm manager. A person should never enter a discussion about people unless he knows the pedigree of everybody involved. Still wish you had more clarity though. Family is often the most difficult people to deal with.
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your fine soggy! no offense taken, i'd love to gits rid of him. he knows nothing about anything on a farm, he just loves the title. in reality he gave up his shares and gave them to his kids, he thought anything made off the farm would put him in a higher tax bracket! but he spends the profits faster than the farm can make it. i'm sure all this chit is gonna end up in court soon...there is more chit happening now, it just sucks! I gotta gits outta here, but will take awhile, about 60 years of accumulation has to leave too.
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Originally posted by soggybottomboy soggybottomboy wrote:

i should not weigh in,because i'm kind of a newbie here,but  i would not tolerate a farm manager like that. Advertise your farm for cash rent. You have the right to spell out the farming practices,and i'm pretty sure they will find a way to make a profit.Tell that s o b manager to hit the road,and don'tell him why. You deserve better.

















I honestly don't know how anyone could make a profit on half a crop.  I guess EVERYTHING is split 50/50, and I mean EVERYTHING, then half of any profit would be split too I suppose.
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When folks cash rent,and they have to pay all of the input costs,they are more motivated to make a profit,because they get 100% of it. I do agree though,that it has become difficult to do that lately. When renting 50/50,people are likely not to watch their nickel as closely because"the landlord pays for half of it."
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Dale, you don't need to go to a lawyer, you HAVE to go to a lawyer.
He's performing grand larceny and getting away with it.  YOU can prove past profits and he's trying to ruin everybody.  It's probably a tax dodge for his kids and that is illegal.  I might even just drop a line to the IRS.....

It's either embezzlement of theft, or both, and both are illegal.

Also, as a stockholder, don't you have the legal right to see ALL the books?


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Kinda sounds like the stockholder took all the rights from Shamer and he's going to have to gets a lawyer to straighten it all out.
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I hate this for you Dale. I will keep you in my prayers for a smooth road ahead.
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Well, way back I gave my opinion and it seems to have come true. It's a shame that the people closest to you are the worst to deal with. I didn't necessarily agree with dad when we got out of the farming, but he held the reins, so I'm glad we did. I'm really sorry for the things that are going wrong Shameless, but maybe you can buy an old flat bottom boat and live on the river. It sure is a lot more affordable.
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Dale, I almost hate to mention this, but I'm have a deep gut feeling that over last couple years you have been cheated big time!. What you should have spent from the very start, would have more than gained back to you in earnings from this 'arrangement'. Have you actually seen your Father's 'will' yet?
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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I'd have to agree with ac fleet: CASH RENT!!!! X number of dollars per acre, regardless of what they get for a crop. And usually a cash rent contract will have all of the specifics about proper stewardship of the land and such. Darrel
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