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Allis B in PA 
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Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 5:16pm |
Hey everybody, Brand new to tractors so I don't have a whole lot of knowledge. Recently inherited a '48 B that was my grandfathers. With a lot of help from my father in law we got it running again. I have 2 way plows, cultivators, and a belly mower. I would like to get some weights for it as well for the front and back. I noticed mine has a bar in the front that I haven't seen on other B's...Is this something for putting weight on? Any help would be appreciated, I'll see if I can get pictures up.  
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MNLonnie
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Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 6:02pm |
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I'm guessing your bar is for pushing stuff around but it could be used for some weight maybe, not sure how secure it is on the front axle. For B's there are side weights that go on the motor and rear wheel weights and also front axle weights for wishbone front ends, not sure about ajustable.
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Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 7:09pm |
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AHA!!!!
Welcome to the group, Doug! If you don't find the answers here, the question is obviously metaphysical, 'cause all the other questions can be answered either by photos, or other AC enthusiasts.
Now, I say AHA... because I have a '48 B ALSO... and although mine does NOT have the adjustable frontend, it has wheel centers like yours. I was told that mine SHOULD have had flat-type (non-dished) centers like what appears on my '39 B... and should've had some other type of wheel, but I see that yours (having 5-lug center sections) that my '48 is most likely correct, at least everything except the rim is.
My guess, is that someone either made a 'special' implement to mount on that, or they used it for either a weight bracket or bumper, or both. It's cleverly done, with exception that it's position precludes easy use of the hand-crank if you should need to start it by hand.
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Charlie175
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Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 7:49pm |
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with a wide front like that I think it would be easy enough to fabricate a bracket for the smaller suitcase style weights.
The side weights can be pretty expensive.
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Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 9:09pm |
I have a 47 B with the same axle configuration as yours. The rear weights are the same as for the C, and get mounted on the inside of the wheel. For the front you would need the "side weights" They mount between the toruge tube (5/8" bolts) and the front mount on the front of the engine (also a 5/8" bolt). I guess that you don't have fluid in the tires. If you did, that would be enough weight to plow with.
Wher do you live in PA? I'm in Hellertown, near Allentown. Bob
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Allis B in PA
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Posted: 04 Sep 2011 at 6:20am |
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Thanks for all the info. I do not have fluid in the tires, I'd rather not mess with that. I've seen the side weights, but I know they are kinda rare. I noticed that the front bar had the same paint as the rest of the tractor, just curious if it was an option for the B's.
Bob, I live in Williamsport, the tractor currently live at my inlaws, not sure my landlords would like me taking up parking spots with my B at the townhouse complex
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Posted: 04 Sep 2011 at 8:30am |
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your bolted rear wheels were optional equuipment that came with the adjustable front end.. standard was spline rear and widhbone front axle.... the weight bar is home made.
Edited by steve(ill) - 04 Sep 2011 at 8:31am
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Allis B in PA
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Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 6:37am |
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Any one in PA have wheel weights or engine weights they are looking to part with?
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Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 9:53pm |
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Do you know Fred yet???? LOL
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Allis B in PA
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Posted: 06 Sep 2011 at 6:58am |
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Nope, I do not have the pleasure yet...
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Posted: 06 Sep 2011 at 1:25pm |
Pleasure!?!?!?!?!?! HAHAHAHA Where at in PA are you? I'm in Lancaster (home) and Doylestown (College) You'll find quite a few of us B guys lurking here in PA. Let us know if you ever need anything. I'll keep my eye out for another set of weights...theres a farm sale up outside of Myerstown that has a few allis's, might want to skim over the sale bill. Search Horning Farm Agency. It's the sale on the 24th of september.
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Posted: 06 Sep 2011 at 2:49pm |
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Allis B in Pa, I live in Canton, Pa, 40 miles north of you. Sorry, I do not have any of the weights that you are looking for. Welcome to Allis.
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Allis B in PA
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 5:35am |
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I found a set of weights for a B for sale not far from me. There is no pictures or any info until I call the guy. Will any wheel weights made for a B fit the 5 lug rear wheels?
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 5:48am |
Have the rear inside weights like you need for that rear hub on your tractor. Call me at 717-451-6590 after 6 pm .I am in Hanover Pa . 15 miles east of Gettysburg .
$60.00 for the pair.
Edited by Fred in Pa - 27 Sep 2011 at 6:43am
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 7:38am |
Adding a water/antifreeze mix to the rear tires for weight is simple enough if you have accesss to a tank sprayer. Calculate the number of gallons required for your tire size from a Ag tire ballast chart and mix the required amount in the sprayer tank. Remove the spray wand from the 3/8 hose and slip it the hose over the valve stem on a flat tire and go to pumping. Position the tire where the valve stem is at the top and fill to that level leaving a air space. As you pump in fluid the tire inflates. Let out some air and replace it with fluid until you reach the full level. Air up the air space to about 10 psi and your ready go to work.
Calcium Chloride and water is heavier than water/antifreze but very corrosive to rims should you spring a leak.
AC manuals did recommend CC and Water for tire ballast but I don't like it.
With the weights from Fred and ballast you should have more than enough rear weight to plow pretty deep.
With both plows mounted and up up you will need some extra weights up front.
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Allis B in PA
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 7:54am |
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Thanks for the info. I certainly need weight for the front. Tried plowing the other day and steering was all but gone with the plows on. I have some access to some lead, thinking about making some homemade weight for the front...any ideas?
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 9:37am |
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Mr. B in PA, a 4 or 6 inch piece of PVC drain pipe filled with concrete makes a dandy weight.
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 1:50pm |
if you have access to lead it makes a dandy weight. The previous owner poured the front rims flush with it. Each wheel weights about 150lbs. If you do this you can't remove the hub from the rim. I have separate rims and hubs if I don't need the weight.
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Posted: 30 Sep 2011 at 12:21pm |
Fred,
Definetly interested in the weights, Work has been crazy and have been working late all week. I will try to call you next week about the weights and try and set something up.
Adam
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