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    Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 6:17pm
Will a Wd45 pull a 3 bottom plow in no rock bottom land?
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I have no idea what your soil is like. Normally, yes, a WD45 was pretty much universally accepted to pull a 3 bottom 14 inch mounted AC plow. Now, I know where there's some bottom ground where a 190XT had all it wanted with 3-16's, so conditions make a difference.
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We pull 4-14 in gumbo ground .
Plow must be set right and the tractor must be weighted.

Edited by DennisA (IL) - 15 Mar 2019 at 7:13pm
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Thanks for the replies.
I'm buying a wd45 and didn't want to over load it,but wanted to use it's full potential,too.
 I grew up on a farm,but it's been 50 years,and don't remember a lot about it.
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Our WD-45--(Gramp's Tractor) would pull 3-14's in third gear WOT and just walk away.  Most of our ground in NW Ohio was Pewamo Silty Clay loam and Blount Silt Loam.  The WD with a #53 Pick-up plow would sometimes stuggle in 2nd gear, but the We-45 with the semi-mount plow was quite a combination!   R. Musgrave
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The WD45 was billed as the "Pull a 4 bottom plow" tractor.
I have and I know others who have pulled a 4-14.  Piece of cake.  I've never see one with a 4-16 on it, so I don't know about that.

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If it won't, its not that hard to drop a bottom.
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Yes, a WD-45 and a 3 bottom plow is a good match.

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And to the original question, you MUST have full fluid in the rear tires to do any serious plow pulling. This fluid will be 900 to maybe 1,000 lbs of weight depending on which size tire you have. Bigger plows may require extra rear wheel weights and some on the front too. Rear tires can't be bald.

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I am in North East Arkansas.
 Coming from North west,Ar.,this ground is totally different.In NW,there was alot of rocks,and here no rocks,and dark soil with some sandy loam.
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Originally posted by mhankins mhankins wrote:

I am in North East Arkansas.
 Coming from North west,Ar.,this ground is totally different.In NW,there was alot of rocks,and here no rocks,and dark soil with some sandy loam.

A 4-14 should work well. I’ve pulled 3-14 with my CA in sod 8” deep. We pull 4-14” behind the 45 and 5-14 behind the D-17. The key to getting the best efficiency use from the equipment is proper setup of the plow and tractor. My CA can pull a 3-14 well, but I had a 2-14 that stopped it dead in its tracks because the plow was way out of adjustment. When the setup is wrong the draft increases which requires more power and traction. The 45 is a 4 bottom tractor. It has power to spare. Traction will be the issue, but with good tread and proper weight you’ll have a great plowing rig. I would recommend fluid in rear tires as well as 1 set of rear wheel weights. This with a working traction booster system will work well. You should also add 1 set of front wheel weights or front stackable weights. There are 4 different plow frames that can be used behind the 45. First is the 50 series which is the most common, but is limited to 3 bottoms. The 60 series is also very common and available up to a 5 bottom. The 70 & 80 series have a lot more trash clearance. They are talller and longer than the 50 & 60 series. The 70 & 80 series are basically the same. The only real difference is that the 80 has spring trips for each bottom. I would also recommend using the 60 series plow frame. If you go with a 70 or 80 series I would recommend a semi-mount type as the length of a 4 bottom would put a lot of weight on the back.
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I also took the wheel weight off the furrow wheel and doubled up on the on land wheel.
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Factory shows the 4-14 semi-mount as made for 45. I have one, but use the 3-14 snap-coupler plow on mine, almost wont handle it here in my gardens. I plow 14 to 18 inches deep, and yes a 14" plow will go that deep if set right!
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I have a computer version of a manual for WD52 and WD53 plows in this computer. I don't think I can post it where my other Allis manuals are posted, but I can attach it to an e-mail.

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Gerald,email is mikegramps@yahoo.com
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I pulled a 4-16 snap coupler semi mount w/steering tail wheel 8in deep with my 45 in 2nd gear. Good match except for the clay and gumbo spots. Not much of that  so just lift T/B a little and go on. I did have to remove some washers in the spring of the snap coupler hitch to keep the plow in the ground.Too much draft with that plow and the TB would raise the plow with the lever at bottom

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WD45 Diesel.  3-16's fully mounted with fluid and weights.  pulled in all types of ground.  16" plow had more clearance then the 14" but was far from high clearance.   i plugged it in wheat stubble, more times then i could count!
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Pulled a 3x16 snap coupler over lots of acres in every condition except alalafa sod. The sod had been there as long as anybody could remember and was heavily fertilized every year. I had to drop the back bottom on that field.
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