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JarrodACFan 
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Posted: 08 Sep 2017 at 10:04pm |
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We are going to start doing our own spraying next year, so I have recently bee working on getting a place set up in the barn for mixing chemicals and such. Anyway, we will be getting some of the chemicals in 275 gallon totes. The problem is, I can't get to where I want them in the barn with a front loader. I estimate the maximum one of those chemical shuttles would weigh is around 3000-3500lbs. So there's the lead-up to the real question...
I think I can get to where I want with my WD45. We still have an original snap-coupler carry-all that hasn't been used in forever. If I were to put this on my WD45 (narrow front, 3 stack weights up front too), is there any way the WD45 could lift this much and keep the front wheels on the ground? Also, will I be tearing up the carry all with this much weight? I am trying to keep from us having to buy a forklift, but I don't want to harm the tractor or the carry-all either. What's your opinion?
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 08 Sep 2017 at 10:36pm |
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You'll tear up the carry all with that much wieght and it's about twice what a wd45 will lift anyway. It should lift about 1500 to 1800 lbs. your wieght estimate is pretty close. I put the cat 2 3 point pallet forks from the farm on my WD45. With 70 15 ft sheets of steel on it I could lift the front of the tractor 3 feet off the ground. I put the loader on for counter balance I squashed the tires flat before it stopped lifting. But still wouldn't lift the pallet. So I gave up and put the forks on my 190. It struggled but lifted it than I had to steer with the brakes didn't have enough to traction to steer. Your better off putting the totes on your water truck or trailer. Set up your water tank mixing cone and pump on a trailer so you can tow to the field your spraying at. We use a old dodge gas powered grain truck. There almost a give away up here.Every thing fits in the back with room for the 2000 gallon tank a 275 tote and a dozen boxes of 2.5 gallon jugs. Pump and mixing cone.Round up is the only thing we get in totes. Every thing else is mixed in much smaller quanities. We have a 1600 gallon 100 ft boom sprayer. You don't want to drag it back to the shop to refill it. It sloshes around if your towing it very fast.
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JarrodACFan
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Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 11:13am |
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That's pretty much what I figured. I thought that would be asking a lot of everything. Thanks! As far as putting the stuff on the trailer, I have thought about that too. Everything that we farm is within 10 miles of home, and that's where the water is, so we will have to come back for that anyway. It might be more convenient on the trailer, but I think in the barn will work best for what we are doing. Plus, the weight of just the tank and the water is nearing the top end of the trailer's capacity.
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Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 4:36pm |
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I think your weight estimate is way off, but I don't know. Water weighs 8.33 lbs per gallon and your estimate for your chemicals makes it around 11 lbs per gallon. I really think you are high on this.
BUT, either way it is too much weight for the Carry-All and also the WD45.
Can't you get two totes and split it between the two? That would be manageable.
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Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 6:50pm |
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I'd think a 'wagon' would be better than a 'trailer' for hauling. A wagon, to me, has 4 wheels, trailer just 2.though a tandem has 4,needs to be hooked onto tractor/truck BEFORE load is added. I found THAT out the hard way...
Also maybe buy a spare tote ? Use it to haul fresh water from home to barn. Use a pump to transfer to totes that get chemicals added. It'd be safe and legal. Up here Johnny Law takes a dim view of hauling 'chemicals' without paperwork, signs, etc.....
just thinking out loud
Jay
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Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 6:55pm |
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The water tank I'm using is a 1600 gallon stainless tank that's DOT approved. The trailer is a 20,000gvw gooseneck, so there's 8 wheels there plus the 4 on the truck. As far as the totes go, they will be coming straight from the chemical supplier, and I doubt they would like to bring 2 that are half full.
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Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 8:34pm |
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Roundup is a little over 11 lbs / gal plus the wieght of tote and pallet forks. When the tote is delivered they forklift it right into the water truck. We don't touch it till its near empty. Loading a 2000 gallon tank at the farm takes forever. We stop at the rural water pumping station and it takes 5 minutes to fill the tank. Just right gallons and farm on the log they bill at the end of the month. Water costs the same as throught the meter at the farm.
Edited by Dakota Dave - 09 Sep 2017 at 8:40pm
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