WD45 Diesel, whats it worth?

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   Hi guys, I don't get to post much any more, just to busy, but I always like to read up here when I get a chance.  I think I have decided to sell my WD45 Diesel and am kinda wondering what some price ideas might be?  Its a narrow front 45, make a nice resto project, is average shape, I have not had it running but the engine turns over, oil is nice and black and anti freeze is green!  I may try to start it if I get a chance, owner that had it said pull it ten feet and it will fire right up.  Anyways wondering whats it worth?  Any one interested maybe? thanks, Larry.

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Larry W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 07 Nov 2010 Location: Luck, WI Points: 278	Post Options Post Reply Quote Larry W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: WD45 Diesel, whats it worth? Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 11:57pm
	Hi guys, I don't get to post much any more, just to busy, but I always like to read up here when I get a chance. I think I have decided to sell my WD45 Diesel and am kinda wondering what some price ideas might be? Its a narrow front 45, make a nice resto project, is average shape, I have not had it running but the engine turns over, oil is nice and black and anti freeze is green! I may try to start it if I get a chance, owner that had it said pull it ten feet and it will fire right up. Anyways wondering whats it worth? Any one interested maybe? thanks, Larry.

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Butch(OH) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lucerne Ohio Points: 3831	Post Options Post Reply Quote Butch(OH) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 6:43am
	My two cents after being down the road with a 45D is the differance between "runs good with no problems" and anything less than that is a large stack of $100 bills. So it is well worth your time and effort to start it and know the condition of the engine especialy if it does indeed turn out to be OK. It would be worth no less to me if you find it to have problems than not knowing one way or the other, others may think differantly. Clean oil and anti freeze doesnt mean no hi buck problems are lurking inside of a 6BD230, been there, done that. If the engine has not been turned in the time you have owned it DONT turn it now before removing the injection pump and being sure it is not stuck or that little and not available shaft could bite you in your wallet. Edited by Butch(OH) - 30 Jun 2011 at 6:46am

JayIN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982	Post Options Post Reply Quote JayIN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 8:53am
	I would say there is at least a $1500 difference between running and not running. AT LEAST !
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allisrutledge Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Location: SurgoinsvilleTN Points: 1352	Post Options Post Reply Quote allisrutledge Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 9:37am
	You should take Butch's advice, Do not pull it or turn the engine unless you check the injector pump. They will stick and break that shaft. Coop97 can tell you all about this. Scott
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Michael Crowe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Kansas City Points: 1712	Post Options Post Reply Quote Michael Crowe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 9:39am
	I have had friends ask me how much they should offer on various WD45 Diesels, and my answer has always been, unless you can start it up and hear the motor run, walk away from it unless you plan to tear it down and do a full rebuild on the motor. Like Butch said, even a running 45 D motor most likely has problems just around the corner unless it was taken care of. The problem is back in their heyday, most farmers did not know to warm the motor up before putting a load on the motor and then to cool it back down before they shut it off; consequently cracked blocks, cracked heads, etc. And I will reiterate, do not even attempt to turn the motor over even by hand until you know that the pump is free and the only way to do that is to take it off and have it checked out. So the long story is, unless the condition of the motor is known to be good, i.e. it starts without ether and runs fine, for my own money, I would not touch it. I would rather wait to find one that has all the correct diesel features and runs fine. Please do not misunderstand, I absolutely love those tractors, but I am realistic enough to know that most today have problems that cost a bunch of money to fix, and that a WD45Diesel with a motor and or pump that is not what came from the factory is not a WD45 Diesel and certainly not worthy of collector status value. As I see it, the only way to sell that tractor and to realize its potential, it has to run well. I know a few guys who have bought non running tractors and most gave up on the project as they did not know the extent of the motor issues.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian Jasper co. Ia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 1:20pm
	I'll chime in and agree with the others. Pull that pump and check it BEFORE you turn the engine at all. If the pump spins freely, service all the engine fluids and start it up. Big difference in price between "starts/runs good" than "it ran good when parked". I just finished a complete overhaul on a 262 (same basic eng) and like Michael says they can still have expensive problems and run.
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orangereborn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NW WI Points: 1403	Post Options Post Reply Quote orangereborn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 2:40pm
	Knowing Larry and the fine work that comes out of his diesel shop, I bet he has crossed those bridges before....Good to hear from you Larry. Did you ever make use of that "mistake in idenity..." monster I brought back from OH? Good Luck on the tractor....Dale

j.w.freck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: karnack texas Points: 1153	Post Options Post Reply Quote j.w.freck Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 3:17pm
	mike crowe said it all in a very condense4d summary.i have 4 45-d all were running except 2 of them.the last one i dismantled,th block and the head were both boat anchors.the block was not only cracked but chunks fell out of it when the head was removed(with the aid of a bottle jack between the frame and the #1 and # 6 energy cells) as mike said these engines were really abused due to the advent of transition from gas to diesel at the time.if the top end was as strong as the 7 main bottom end and the massive crank shaft it would have been non destructable.the injector pump should always should always be removed and benched if the engine has set up very long.as mike said you can get a lot of money tied up in parts and labor at a machine shop.but i will have to admit,nothing sounds better than a newly o/h 230....good luck on your endevor,and may it be a challenging and rewarding project,,, 336

Bull Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Location: Lamar, Missouri Points: 589	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bull Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 3:40pm
	I grew up on a 45D and recall Dad having to replace the head on it twice. That happened in spite of him being very adamant about letting it warm up and cool down. On the other hand it was the work horse on 400 acres for 10 years so I would say it did pretty well.

j.w.freck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: karnack texas Points: 1153	Post Options Post Reply Quote j.w.freck Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 9:17pm
	you are right as rain bull,the head too many areas to crack out,especially around the nozzle ports which was too thin and around the air cell ports.you said you grew up on a 45-d,i cant remember,but do they use the same 2 row and 4 row front cultivator mounts???

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	Larry Good to here from you also. I need to send some pictures to you soon of the Old 21. I have been busy too. Talk to you soon, Darryl
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Larry W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 07 Nov 2010 Location: Luck, WI Points: 278	Post Options Post Reply Quote Larry W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 11:52pm
	Thanks for the input guys. I think we'll fire it up next week, there is a local antique pull to test it at coming up. As for the engine Dale, it went to scrap iron heaven when prices where high, bummer! Good to hear from you Darryl, hope to talk to you sometime.