This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


WD / WD45 Wide Frontend

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Lew View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jun 2017
Location: Buford, GA
Points: 59
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: WD / WD45 Wide Frontend
    Posted: 19 Jul 2018 at 4:10pm
I know the difference between the three bolt and 4 bolt frontends which is the mounting plate. Why did Allis make the two different frontends? I have a 1950 WD and a 1954 WD45 which are both tricycle wheel frontends which type, three or four, would be period correct for the wide frontends; I am refurbishing both tractors.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
LouSWPA View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Clinton, Pa
Points: 25058
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LouSWPA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2018 at 4:24pm
to my knowledge, the WD only came with the three, and the early WD-45's were 3 bolt, but I don't know where the cutoff came. The reason, as I understand it was the four bolt was stronger
I am still confident of this;
I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
Wait for the Lord;
be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27
Back to Top
HD6GTOM View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 30 Nov 2009
Location: MADISON CO IA
Points: 6627
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HD6GTOM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2018 at 4:55pm
4 bolt is stronger. If you are going to convert, I strongly recommend the 4 bolt. Check to see the holes on the cast center Block are not stripped out and farmer repaired.
Back to Top
IBWD MIke View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 08 Apr 2012
Location: Newton Ia.
Points: 4063
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IBWD MIke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2018 at 8:13pm
4 bolt wide front end started at serial no. 186413 according to my notes.
Back to Top
Dakota Dave View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: ND
Points: 3971
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dakota Dave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2018 at 9:19pm
WD 45 got the 4 bolt wide front in 1954 production year. It was around the same time as the diesel. It's rare to find a three bolt that hasn't been repaired usually a farmer mod. The loaders were very hard on the three bolts.
Back to Top
Lonn View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 16 Sep 2009
Location: Назарово,Russia
Points: 29805
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lonn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 7:13am
I purchase a WD with a wide front to use the wide front for my Dad's old WD (It had a narrow front). I "rebuilt" the threaded mounting holes on the wide front block. Bolt holes were busted out. I used nickle welding rod and filled in the holes, not really knowing what I was doing, I then took it to a machine shop to get new holes and threads cut. No machine shop would touch it because I used regular nickle rod for cast iron. I was informed that I should have used some kind of milling welding rod so the material would be softer to cut. So I tackled the job myself. Bought a handful of drill bits and sharpened them several times. Got the holes drilled finally. Then came tapping the threads. Again I bought two or three taps. Could only go a thread or two before tap wouldn't cut then I would slice off the end of the tap and start again. Repeat until that tap was used up. Grab another tap and so on and so forth. Job got done and twenty sum years later and lots of hay mowed and raked and it has held up fine. I periodically check to make sure the bolts are tight but I did use high strength thread lock and they never have come loose. You can't tell it was ever busted up. Loose bolts is what I think will bust out the threads in the first place.
-- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... -
Wink
I am a Russian Bot
Back to Top
LionelinKY View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Radcliff,KY
Points: 695
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LionelinKY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 11:44pm
Grandpa got tired really quick of the bolts loosening up and backing out on our 1953 WD45 that he bought used in the early 60s. Good friend of his that was also an Oliver dealer and top notch machinist offered to fix it for him. He drilled out the holes at least 1 size larger, tapped the new holes for larger bolts, and hasn't been a problem ever since going on 5 decades now. Tractor has never had a loader on it but has handled a Meyer snowplow every winter back as far as my memory goes.
"My name is Lionel and I'm an Allisoholic"
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.047 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum