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garden_guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1146 |
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Well I finally got my pedals sleeved and my new clutch/brake shaft installed in the WD today. Had a machine shop bore the pedals out and put bronze bushings in, and ordered a replacement clutch/brake shaft and had them ream the bushings to fit. ![]() Old vs. New shafts: ![]() For the clutch and the right brake, I took a 90 degree grease zerk and cut the top off and used it as a method to center-drill the bushing to take grease and put a new zerk in. ![]() Took me three tries to put everything together today. You have to remember to insert the rod that goes between the clutch pedal and the part that goes up by the side of the tractor into the pedal BEFORE it goes on the shaft (whoops). Got it shimmed up pretty snug but everything moves freely and is tight. ![]() ![]() ![]() Such a weird feeling to not have your brake drag the fender or the clutch not wobble past the nub or tag the frame rail. I also had them go ahead and sleeve the hand clutch, but I didn't replace the pin as I wasn't wanting to dig in that far. ![]() I also ordered a replacement jam nut off of ebay (got an entire left brake piece that screws onto the shaft and some shims, actually), but I did manage to salvage this one I split the nut on. I found a part that goes for a Kinze planter that works perfectly as a jam nut. Just the uppermost course of threads was damaged, and they're gone now. ![]() |
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IBWD MIke ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3970 |
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Nice work!
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Sugarmaker ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8428 |
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GG,
Great upgrade on your WD work! It will feel like a new tractor each time you get on it. I think your about ready to tackle a complete refurb, clean and paint on one of these old girls. Most of the rest will be a will in park after getting the brake rod repair completed! Ok maybe a complete brake job, might be the toughest??:) Thanks for the good pictures too! Always good following your work. So now those parts are good for another 70 years or so. Probably more because they wont get the work that your family did with them. Looking forward to the next project too. Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Brian G. NY ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: 12194 Points: 2256 |
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As worn as the shaft is, it's amazing how well the "tread" held up on that brake pedal!
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24338 |
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Ok, I gotta ask... is that a valve stem assembly ina grease cartridge in the 3rd picture ???
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ACinSC ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2904 |
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Good job ! I recently found out that my D 15 has replaceable bushings for brake and clutch pedals . Something else to add to my wish list . Thanks !
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garden_guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1146 |
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Thanks!
Thanks Chris! I think you're right, it's about time to get this first tractor back into nicer condition. Fortunately this tractor already had the brakes redone before it came into my possession, but my other WD... It needs a brake job and maybe a clutch job. Ooof! I definitely hope this pedal repair outlasts me, but it is crazy how weird it is to drive it with the pedals being so tight. I'm consciously waiting for the pedal to move sideways like old times, so I've been pretty ginger on it so far haha. My plan for next fall is to check the front hubs and bearings on the other WD, and then I have a new brake/clutch pedal for it and will have the same machine shop sleeve those pedals (they're a bit worse than this WD was, for sure). Costs a little bit of money, but I don't have the proper tools to do the sleeving myself (but I saved a bit of money doing my own grease zerk work). |
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garden_guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1146 |
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Indeed, the clutch pedal is pretty smooth on the face, but the brake pedal is in really good shape on the front, which is surprising. It was definitely a "fender dragger", too!
When I was cleaning out a carb, I needed some compressed air and didn't have a compressor with me, so I installed bike tire fill valves into two cans of compressed air so I could pump them up with a bicycle pump. ![]() Not the best idea, but it works if you just need a couple shots of air to clean out a main jet or something.
Oooh, it's even better if they're already replaceable. The hand clutch was a pretty easy job since it had bushings in it already from the factory (though I had them install a straight thru bushing instead of two partials with a hollow center). Sounds like they learned from the W series, haha. |
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ACinSC ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2904 |
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Gotta wonder if any newer tractors have replaceable pedal bushings ?
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garden_guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1146 |
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Good question. It is interesting that the hand clutch already had bushings in it, but the shaft itself had some wear even though there was some bushing material left.
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kevin LA-CA ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: california Points: 67 |
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I am trying to tighten up the foot clutch and hand clutch on my wd. Do you know the diameter of the brake shaft? How about the outside diameter of the bushings your Machinist used in the pedals?
I am looking for the hand clutch bushing 70224705 but cannot find. Haven't contacted an agco dealer, bit DJs doesn't list it. Did you fix the hand clutch? Any measurements? Thanks. Kevin |
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garden_guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1146 |
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Hey there. Well, I'll do my best to recall what the numbers were. I ordered some generic bronze bearings from McMaster-Carr, and they seemed to work well. So the hand clutch, the shaft is a little smaller than the foot pedals. I didn't want to mess with trying to get the shaft off to repair or replace, so what I did was had the machine shop take out the leftover bushings and install a single full new bushing in its place. I think the hand clutch shaft should be 7/8". * Bronze Sleeve Bearing for 7/8" Shaft Diameter and 1" Housing ID Then for the foot clutch and the right brake, I had the machine shop drill them out and install these bushings in them, as the clutch/brake shaft is around 1". * Bronze Sleeve Bearing for 1" Shaft Diameter and 1-1/8" Housing ID Now, the clutch/brake shaft I got that was brand new was just a tiny bit over 1.000" (as was my original), so the shop reamed out the two new bushings once they were installed so they would slide on the shaft, and they were a snug fit but I am really happy with how it turned out. Just a slight void on the pedals where they egged badly on the one edge.
Did not touch the left brake nor the left brake actuator pawl, as they both jam nut lock to the shaft, so they don't wear like the clutch and the right brake do. Also glad I got the grease zerk holes drilled and new zerks installed. |
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Gary ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5879 |
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Garden Guy This past summer I was working on a 49 WD, doing pedals like you. When I came to the Hand Clutch Lever, it was seized solid. After spraying with PB Blaster, with brute strength I started moving it forward and back, while prying it outboard. All of a sudden it fell loose. Turns out it was the Pivot Shaft turning in the Housing. Learned that the H/C Shaft is just pressed in to the Housing. G |
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garden_guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1146 |
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I have heard some people were able to get their hand clutch pin out like that Gary. Mine was in there solid. I was also afraid even if I put a replacement pin in the deep freeze, without the transmission cover off and the frame rail removed, I couldn't get it set to the correct depth. Maybe someone has tried it with success around here? Just replacing the bushings and adding a shim made it 80% back to original feel.
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LionelinKY ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Radcliff,KY Points: 695 |
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Did my 1953 WD45 too a couple years ago. Same wear and floppy pedals. All new brass bushings in everything. Added a grease zerk or 2 also. Re-used the original shaft after some sanding-wasn't aware at that time that new ones were available. Did the same for hand clutch shaft. I was quite impressed with the selection of products from McMaster-Carr too. Quite sure I'll be using them again.
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Ed (Ont) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: New Lowell, Ont Points: 1418 |
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Did your new shaft come from Steiner or are they available elsewhere? And how is the quality as far as size and hole location?
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ACinSC ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2904 |
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Just replaced the clutch pedal bushings in our Diesel D 15 this morn . Old ones were steel , new ones are brass/bronze . Hope it does more good than it did on the Gas D 15 . Clutch shaft is quite worn on that Tractor , like everything else . Thanks !
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garden_guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1146 |
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LionelinKy -- I probably should've added a grease zerk to the hand clutch that one baffles me as it is going to wear down quickly without removing it and lubing it. Feels good to have it done though! And yes, McMaster has saved me on quite a few things, I also bought more shims/spacers for the pedals from them (called arbor shims or somesuch).
ACinSC -- It is crazy how egged out they get. Feels good to have them reworked. My hand clutch still is a bit wobbly but so much better than it was.
I see Steiner has them, but I bought mine from RItool here on our forum's classified sections and it worked out fantastic for me. He also has reworked pedals available: |
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ACinSC ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2904 |
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Thanks Garden Guy! Good info .
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Ed (Ont) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: New Lowell, Ont Points: 1418 |
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Here you go. Dave in Green Bay.
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Gary ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5879 |
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