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Mike,
 No its 5 miles away at the daughters place. Sorry! I showed you the only orange unit that was here. Maybe next time!:)
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

Mike,
 No its 5 miles away at the daughters place. Sorry! I showed you the only orange unit that was here. Maybe next time!:)
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Hahaha...got’em scattered about huh? I know the feeling 😂
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Mike,
 Yea I need that storage building to be able to gather them back here at the house. Not sure if I am too cheap or too lazy?:)

Cleaning leaves out of the ditch with the 45 and trailer. Its the only tractor here for this job. Starting to snow a little and we are expecting 6 inches in the next 24 hours.

Cooper and Cheryl came out for a few minutes. He through a fit not being able to go on a tractor ride with Papa.

The load of leaves went on the garden for compost.
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That’s a good pic and getting the job done .I have to say every time from now when I see a pic of the field behind your house I’m going to envision a 10 point walking across the field with the muzzle end of my 338 Win Mag locked on it.😆You’ve got a beautiful place there good sir!
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Mike,
 We have some good hunting in this area

Deer pictures deleted 11-17-19 cec

Our rifle season comes in the Saturday after Thanksgiving this year. A new start day for us.
Now I need to see if I can find my license?:)

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Y’all sure do have some big bucks up there.I work with two brothers at the plant that are from outside Lancaster and they go back home a few times a year to hunt and come back with some nice ones.I gave up bow hunting years ago ,I just gave up fighting the mosquitos down here in the muggy south.
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Originally posted by MDWilliams338 MDWilliams338 wrote:

That’s a good pic and getting the job done .I have to say every time from now when I see a pic of the field behind your house I’m going to envision a 10 point walking across the field with the muzzle end of my 338 Win Mag locked on it.😆You’ve got a beautiful place there good sir!

.338 Win Mag., holy crap! When we still had a rifle season here for late-antlerless I was feeling overgunned with my 25/06. Meet damage was a little extreme. The .264 Mag. was even worse!
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Originally posted by IBWD MIke IBWD MIke wrote:

Originally posted by MDWilliams338 MDWilliams338 wrote:

That’s a good pic and getting the job done .I have to say every time from now when I see a pic of the field behind your house I’m going to envision a 10 point walking across the field with the muzzle end of my 338 Win Mag locked on it.😆You’ve got a beautiful place there good sir!

.338 Win Mag., holy crap! When we still had a rifle season here for late-antlerless I was feeling overgunned with my 25/06. Meet damage was a little extreme. The .264 Mag. was even worse!
My son shot a doe with his.264 it was a bit much
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Guys,
 I am still using a 30.06 round in 160 or 180 grain, it gets the job done too. We had a couple does come out and feed in the field behind the house at noon. With the fresh 6 inches of snow last night they must have slept in?:)
Getting old is bad enough, Getting old and forgetful is worse! Now where is that darn hunting license? Guess I am going to have to go get a replacement. That should bring it out of hiding! I have been too busy to hunt anyway. Working on the stainless smoke stack for the evaporator yesterday and today. Using my arch as the support to trim, fit and fasten the two halves together:
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Chris,I jumped one on the four wheeler Sunday. She stopped and looked 20 yards away. Could have pulled my .40 and dropped her right there. But you know how PA is.
 
 
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Originally posted by IBWD MIke IBWD MIke wrote:

Originally posted by MDWilliams338 MDWilliams338 wrote:

That’s a good pic and getting the job done .I have to say every time from now when I see a pic of the field behind your house I’m going to envision a 10 point walking across the field with the muzzle end of my 338 Win Mag locked on it.😆You’ve got a beautiful place there good sir!

.338 Win Mag., holy crap! When we still had a rifle season here for late-antlerless I was feeling overgunned with my 25/06. Meet damage was a little extreme. The .264 Mag. was even worse!

😬Let me clarify a little because yeah...the .338 is a lot of lead for wild goat(I also use it for bear too).For the most part I actually still hunt with my very first rifle a 1963 Winchester ‘94 in 30-30...actually another one of my vices are Winchester lever guns in all calibers and different models (73’s,86’s,92’s and 94’s)with the 38-55 being my favorite.In my 20’s I used to go with some friends from work to Great Falls,Billings & outside of Bozeman Montana to hunt and this is where my love for the Winchester 70 .338 Win Mag came in. And for a long time that was the only place I used that particular rifle ...then with the help of some SO friends here on Ft Bragg I was shown how to hand load my own .338 in the performance window of .270 Win to .30-.06 Springfield using a slower powder and rifle primers,not Mag primers.So depending on which field I’m hunting in at home I may use the slow burner .338 just to have a bit of extra reach over my main go to Win ‘94 in 30-30.
It really is interesting to know what people use in various parts of the country.@ Chris..if I lived in your area my Matthews or Browning compound would be all I ever used most likely.
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Mike,
 Good stuff! 
exSW,
Yea better let the girls run for a couple more weeks!

I have never been into guns much just have a couple for various hunting from squirrels to deer. I have been giving some of my guns to the kids and grand kids.
I need to get out with the cross bow if I get this evaporator back together soon.
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Folks,
 Couple pictures from today. Anyone see any issues with this?:)

Wife's car in front of garage:

Inside the garage where she normally parks:

I think I will keep her! Maybe take her out to a fancy restaurant too!

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Folks,
 Well the first ride of the year was not good! I may have mentioned before that the transmission was getting stuck in gear. Today I was a half mile from home. Rolling to a stop I shifted out of 4th and the lever just acted like it was in neutral but transmission was actually stuck in 1st. So I drove home in 1st gear! Not a happy camper! Proceeded to rip the shift tower off this evening. I have not begun to figure out what the problem is yet But I assume its worn in the area of the shifter bottom knob. The slots. Also looks like the reverse spring loaded feature is well worn. 

It may have also just been throwing a hissy fit since all the other tractors are home and its not getting as much attention as normal!:)



As I look at it more I see that someone was in there at least once because the lock wires are of different materials and not wrapped very well.


Any suggestions are appreciated. My basic plan is to start to find info on repairs. and or specs. Then see if I can find parts??? My guess is if I could replace all the parts that get moved by the shift lever it would solve 90% of the issues.
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Sorry to hear this Chris. Driving home in first doesn't sound too fun, probably better than reverse! I've got a 45 with a sloppy shifter too. Hope to get that fixed this year.
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Yessir that does suck right there and I wish I could tell you where to start but fortunately and knock on wood I haven’t had an issue like this before.But I do think you’re on the right path and looks like you have the actual culprit pulled off so I guess it’s just knowing how to correctly set the forks and replace what’s worn. But hey,least you got it home,wasn’t in a parade and you didn’t have to break the tractor in half to get to the gremlins 😁
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Guys,
 Yes it could always be worse. I talked to Bill at Sandy Lake and he advised me that most of the worn are repairable by welding, grinding and filing. He did mention that they even weld the bottom are of the tower where the ball has worn it too deep. Then hand work that into a spherical shape to accept the ball of the shift lever. My plan is to try to document this work with some words and pictures. I think I may move this to its own thread, that could be more helpful to others rather than buried in this old thread.
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Edited by Sugarmaker - 02 Apr 2020 at 11:54am
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Folks,
 As I bring up this old thread for a update, the work on the shift tower, although maybe crude by many standards, sure seems to be working! The old 45 shifts smooth and crisp!

I finally ordered a new Traction booster unit from Sandy Lake. along with D17 shift boot and new knobs for the Allis wide front throttle and hydraulic levers.


This is the old gage:

Yea looked pretty bad and did not function. I put it on just to have things hooked up.

New TB gage installed:

And it works!

This may be the last piece of the big 3D Allis puzzle!

Recent picture of the 45 resting:

Thanks for checking in on me! Mark is just about here to pick up the 12 inch spin out rim for his WD45. We may even talk tractors in the rain!
Regards,
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The gauge looks great! I don't think I've ever operated a tractor with one... I can't remember if my stuck WD-45 has one or not. I'll have to check next time I visit my folks.

I was surprised how cheap the shifter boot was through my local dealer. You sure don't want to let any water in there!
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Looks good Chris! You did an awesome job on that old 45.

While out plowing at our local show last summer my TB gauge started working. I believe I bought it on E-bay, used, put it on mostly for looks. A new one would look better!
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Thanks Guys!
 I wasnt going to do this and then thought about the details a lot of you guys do on your tractors. Bite the bullet and ordered it! Its only money!
Beautiful day temps in the mid to high 70's. Trimmed all the shrubs, weed whacked, and then mowed the yard.
Me and the wife celebrate this day with a couple hotdogs. Our first date was 51 years ago. That was what she brought me for supper at the drive in movies!
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That WD-45 I worked on for my cousin had a traction booster gauge on it, but I never followed back the hose to see where it ran to. My WDs don't have traction booster gauges on them. Kind of curious to see one in action.
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GG, Folks,
They are really only a indicator of what the hydraulics are doing. My thoughts it was more of a sales gimick than of any real value? Maybe others will chime in? Yes I believe the 45's were the first to get these maybe in the 1954 time frame???
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Sugarmaker hit the nail on the head. You can 'feel' the TB working without looking at the gauge. Kind of neat when it does work though. First time I used the traction booster,(on purpose) it blew me away what a difference it makes! Tractor got to spinning while plowing some tough ground, raised the lever a little, man that thing hooked up, swear it set me back in the seat!
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Can even tell on my old WD without TB, if you set the hydraulic system up right and raise the lever a little, and traction comes back and away you go.

Also, side note... Chris, when you take the front pedestal off, how did you block it up? I can tell both my WDs have loose steering and wobble, and I am sure it's in the front pedestal, so I am tempted to try and rebuild them one of these days. But also concerned at what to do with all that weight when you "unbolt" the pedestal from the front.
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GG.
 I have a pair of steel saw horses that are very stout. Only need a couple blocks of wood to get the wheels off the ground. Yea you need a good safe support and good to block the rear wheels from moving too!
Good luck, these can get worn in all the correct areas!
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

GG.
 I have a pair of steel saw horses that are very stout. Only need a couple blocks of wood to get the wheels off the ground. Yea you need a good safe support and good to block the rear wheels from moving too!
Good luck, these can get worn in all the correct areas!
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Thanks Chris! Debating how badly I want to try and tackle this, and how much talent I have to do it... Also, it sounds like I may need a helper or two to actually pull the pedestal out the front and make sure we handle it properly down to the ground. Once you unbolt the pedestal, I assume there's some steering linkage that needs undone so it can slide forward?


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GG,
 Yes the steering knuckle needs to be disconnected, if your going to pull that out, And of course both frame rails have to be loose. The bolts holding the frame rails to the pedestal can be a problem and sometimes break off. be gentle with them.
I would try to service the front with out taking it off first. You can do the lower bearing and seal work, and shaft repairs,  with out taking the pedestal out. Another difficult item is the dowel pins that holds the spring loaded cranking shaft in place.
Once that shaft is out I use a long bar to roll the pedestal away from the tractor. Or I have used the cherry picker to lift and move the pedestal. Its heavy and awkward.
If you think you need to do bearing work on the steering shaft end then yes, probably better to take the pedestal out.
 Good luck and be careful!
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Just stopped back by to look at the pictures on page 9 and 10 of the rework of the pedestal... I really need to check that and the steering on both my WDs one of these days, but not until I have a real shop with a concrete floor and some more tools. Or learn how to weld, lol.

Anything I can do if I pull the 4 bolt top cover off the pedestal and look down at the worm gear? Or does everything get taken out the bottom to work on anyway?
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I just needed up the 3 bolt front end on mine might think about doing it to your wd45, I incorporated the original pivot plate on mine, just stacked, yours I would weld to use that pushbar
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