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Ken in Texas 
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Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 8:55pm |
I found a complete BE engine to rebuild for my 39B. It has a water manifold outlet elbow cast like this drawing except the casting is not drilled and threaded for Temperature Gauge or a plug to be used without a temp gauge. The part number for the elbow used for gas is 207454. Part number for untapped elbow is unknown. My radiator is non presureized . I have a hole in my hood for a gauge. Anybody wish to trade even your tapped casting for my same casting without it being drilled and tapped for the gauge. My guess mine is for a BE engine prior to 23815  |
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Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 11:59pm |
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Why not drill and tap yours?
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 5:14am |
Ken, I still have some of those B/C water necks that I bought from ya years back. They all have provision for the gauge. Will one of those work for ya? I'll send one of those back to ya ta' bail you out and just make the swap. Let me know... Steve@B&B
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 6:03am |
OK, I have to ask a dumb question...... Why isn't it tapped ? Is it for a 'special' engine setup ??
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 7:01am |
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For the RC in the 1939 timeframe, the un-tapped was for Gas engines and tapped was for Kerosene - only kerosene had the temp gauge. I believe the B was the same but I don’t have my info handy.. I suspect the B was the same. Later, all were tapped for a gauge.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 7:08am |
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I believe the RC used a taller neck than the B/C if I remember correctly also.
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 7:33am |
Jay My thoughts exactly. I just mailed out a elbow for a 38B not shown in parts manual. It is a straight up and out for use without a gauge. The casting is like the drawing less the knob above the outlet hole where the gauge threads in . When Gary and I restored B-751 it came with a straight up and out elbow and no hole in the hood for a temp gauge.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 7:53am |
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I guess I could use one of the later elbows cast for a thermostat. Just leave the stat out. Who but a Correct Cop would care? I still have a few later water necks on a shelf.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 8:45am |
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Mike - you are right, the RC necks are taller. I meant I think they are the same in the gas/kerosene application.
Ken, you certainly could use a later one without issue. I also may have a non-thermostat one that is tapped that I could let with - will have to see if the ice will allow me into the shed.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 1:35pm |
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The RC neck was in its own class. Specifically for the RC.
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 8:05am |
Never just get in a rush to judgement of what water neck is correct without checking Engine Numbers FIRST. Mine after looking is BE-28198 G. Well above the change to water necks WITH a Thermostat. My parts book says that engine number for the change is BE-23815. I grabbed one WITH a Thermostat off the shelf and took it apart and cleaned it up real good. I just need two new long mounting bolts that aren't almost rusted in two. The adapter plate is still OK enough to use.. Now. Who would have a use for the early style elbow we talked about being untapped for a temp gauge? Maybe Someone restoring a very early 38-B that when new did not have a temp gauge. Picture Next. Anyone seen one exactly like this . Only one I ever ran across for sure. Ken
Edited by Ken in Texas - 11 Mar 2019 at 10:06pm
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Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 8:25am |
Edited by Ken in Texas - 10 Mar 2019 at 8:27am
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Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 7:27am |
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from my understanding no 1938 B's had a gauge, I am looking for a water neck for my 38 B without gauge provisions!
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Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 4:04pm |
WD45Diesel57 Make me a offer by a PM in US Dollars Cash for the water neck pictured. No Canadian Money order please. I have no proof that the water neck I have pictured was used on 1938 BE engines. I had another without the knob on top that I know was used on B#751 . However it should work just fine without needing to use a plug
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