Value of very rough non running 220 FWA

Well, I will chip in. My friend Bob Vanderploeg went and looked at this tractor 10 years ago and offererd to buy the whole thing and can drive to the place when it was in OR. Owner said no. I know another forem member who has emails about this tractor from about 6 years ago on this also. A few of us AC guys got together for lunch yesterday and were discussing this. If it is in WA state now, it must have happened in the last 5 to 6 years. Looks like it has been sitting for along time. Notice the turbo is off. This tractor has been getting vandalized big time in the last few years from when my friends were getting photos of it and when they say the thing.

I know of a guy in Garwin Iowa that has a 220 fwa and also a 4w220
His name is kirk Wilton he has a bin site on the south edge of town.
I don't think he wants to sell. But if some of you are keeping track of serial numbers I can get that from him.

Sorry for incorrect spelling kirk!
I need to swing by sometime and see how everything is.
I know they updated your gates and bin fill on your site.
Your 4w220 was a very nice tractor. Can't wait to see the 220 fixed up!

Brett

Here are just a few of my thoughts on this tractor.  Personally I don't see the need for a donor tractor, while I cannot see the other side of her, the only thing that appears to be missing mechanically is the turbo, and probably the oil cooler.  The front grill may be gone, or it may be in the weeds like the hood.  This tractor may have been vandalized, but that appears to me to have been limited to the cab.  The front of the tractor was "disassembled" probably has something to do with the missing turbo, which may indicate engine troubles.  Non of which should keep a guy from trying to buy it, but something is fishy here, and I don't want to call anybody a lier so I will keep it to myself for now.

I also see the injector lines are laying on the front weights pump is probably gone and injectors are probably open or gone too so hence water in the motor. but still a good start to a front assist 220 i would defiantly twist the guys arm to get it bought. i might even go as high as $15,000 

Depends on what caliber of rare tractor you want. You started on the high side of rare with that one.

From other posters it sounds like this one has been known about and pursued in the past....or even changed locations?

Have you been back there again? What do you know about the history of this one?

mm1468 wrote: what would be some other rare allis tractors that we could look for that he could restore for the contest? thanks

I would love to see this 220 FWA go up on the Auction Block in the Mid West area .Then we would find out on that given day what it would be WORTH to the HIGHEST BIDDER !!!!

I agree Gary supply and demand sets the price.

I guess I will say what I think 20k maybe 25 would be fair but if u want one 30 we have owed 4 still have 3 of them bid on worse yellow one also in WA state was last bid before it went to Indiana as steted had no ring gear or carrier in front axle but since we had one 220 fwa on the trailer we passed on that one six years ago they have gone up sine 2003 five thousand per year If the ones advertised for 45 k sold for that I personally know a lot of these tractors survive most people who have them don't want to be hassled by people who want to buy them at low ball prices so they are in the sheds hid away from jockeys and the like who bombard farm papers with ads for fwa tractors just our experience from buying ours over the last few years one last thing our salvage yard has tin and engine parts stacked up like cord wood from all the 220s killed in the late 80s so I think donor pats
do not need to come from another killed 220 sorry for the rant

Was this the 220 that was sitting near Irrigon close the the Army Ammunition Depot?

RichinWis wrote: I saw one of those sell in northern Ohio about 10 years ago, and even if I wanted it I would not have been able to. Thats why it is nice to have friends to visit that have one.

Same here.  Have a friend of the family that owns one here in northern Ohio.  Love to admire it whenever I get the chance.  Don't think owning one would ever be an option for me. 

What dictates a lot of the price in the collector market is ego. Rarity doesn't always play in the price factor. The 220 was the biggest & baddest that Allis had to offer at the time. It was also the only one offered with FWA option. The high crops was an option on several models, although equally as rare. Whatever you collect, usually the more horsepower, the more money. Almost always a V8 will bring more than a strait 6 in collector cars, no matter how rare.

I talked to owner and he said that he does not want to sell it since it is the first tractor he ever bought new. He appreciated my sons interest in it but the had a lot of sentimental value to he and his dad. He said he has been wanting to get it moved to their shop for years but just hasn't got to it. I will keep my eye on it though.

I have found in life a big ole bucket of banded $100 bills right in the guys face cures a lot of sentimemtal value. You just have to be willing to part with the big ole bucket of money.